Gents I wonder does anyone of you plays sports betting and using some MM from roulette?
I was doing so last some time and found it amazed how easy it goes...
I deposited on 7th October 94.5 € and decided to play sports betting using my roulette MM. Today is 22nd and I doubled my starting bankroll. I will show screen for non believers [smiley]aes/headphones.png[/smiley]
I play it exactly like I play roulette in terms of money management and I personally give more credit to that then to my sports picking. Maybe you will wonder how?
I play it to have total odds of about 2.0 and I usually take 1-3 picks. I treat that as one game and each game represents 1 unit in a bank. I started with 1 € as a base so I had starting bank of 94.5 units
I can say that by now my biggest DD was about 35 units max, almost tree time less then my bank can handle.
I am taking picks mostly by my knowledge in sports and sometimes If I am not sure what to play, I look what pros say on blogabet.com, here or some sports betting sites, read their analysis and usually play that pick even a bit safer (if for example they offer a bet with high confidence according to them and Asian handicap of -0.5 where odds are about 1.90 I play it safer with lower odds) I just make my 2.0 total odds bet and this is how betselection usually goes.
Variance was more then nice as I can handle. I like that.
I am really consistent in money management which it practically does all job for me and I don't need to have some super hitting percentage, actually good under 50% of won tickets, but that is how it seems to me, no matter how strange this may sound I am not too concerned about picks.
This is becoming kinda my 2nd hobby and it is fun :)
Regards
Drazen
Great question. It has crossed my mind...
I am about to "enter" the sports betting arena, so this topic makes total sense to me.
I hope someone may help out and provide more examples.
Keep on profiting !!!
that's exactly what Im doing!!! I have taken my Roulette and baccarat progressions and play for less per average bet, but I always clean my mess up in a few days and am ahead substantialy this summer and spring
Quoteusing my roulette MM
How looks your MM?
Very elegant [smiley]aes/girl.png[/smiley]
As it is custom tailored for my "measures".
Drazen
OK I see. Good Luck dear friend!
Sorry I knew you expected maybe more details.
Everything in it is based on keeping same efficiency all the time with as lower DD-s as possible (or at least as I am ready to handle in return for efficiency )
Stetson Bailey has good book on MM, ( I can send you a copy if you don't have it) and you can find good ones too at our ministry of progressions which George leads with his deputy Atlantis [smiley]aes/lol.png[/smiley]
Regards
Drazen
I recommend that you invest in home Betfair is the best, with the highest odds, and the possibility to bet back or lay a result.
You can greatly increase your winnings by betting on the sport that you understand ...
If you have any questions about the betting market, you might ask, am I in the midst of almost 2 years
If you can send me the book Stetson Bailey would be grateful. I have the book, but the pdf of the book is not with very good impression.
see: http://www.academiadasapostas.com/ (http://www.academiadasapostas.com/)
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Drazen asked this in a PM and I will answer here. I have been sports betting for at least 40 years (for legal reasons only in Nevada when im there-wink wink -)
My betting would go from 200 to 5k a game --5 k rarely, maybe 10 x......Ok Now I've been playing roulette , Bacc , craps etc for 3-4 years in casinos and doing well but it's a pain in a way. So i decided to modify my sports by playing smaller -say 50-100 a game and I use many of the progressions that I have learned from casino schemes... I play a ton more games and in different sports including horse racing..
I use my own picks, colleagues, betting percentage plays etc etc I divide into catogories or different bets, and slowly go up in money won with no stress. I have grown my starting bets a bit with money won but also use half the winnings for expenses. I have losing days but that has no effect on the final tally
So that's my sports betting way for now I guess
Thanks Tomla
Maybe it seemed so from my first post, but this isn't the first time I succeeded like this. About 2 years ago I deposited 6 € with 0.2€ base and turned it in 19 ,then deposited 19 and come about 100, and now this.. It would be definitely doable for me to even live out of it (with enough money)
My biggest problem is that as a student I don't have steady incomes, and some student jobs I can get are once in a blue moon. So just as I earn some money I need to shell it out on something, as I don't want my parents to cover all expanses about that.
So it is a constant fight for me to have some extra money which I can use for roulette and sports betting. But anyhow I still feel happy no matter what I have to withdraw everything from time to time. It is nice and sad feeling at the same time [smiley]aes/confused.png[/smiley] (as I am aware that if I wasn't carefull I could lost all, and takes a lot of energy in the end to avoid that, especially on roulette)
Drazen
drazen if you can? your good enough to do it--try to open one all on its own account with 5-10 euros..Play tiny and don't take out--you will be surprised how big the account is in a year if you use your head--make bigger bets (just a little) every time you triple the bankroll
Well I know that Tomla. I was doing excatly like that.
But thing is that BR becomes so nice and I always have a hole in my budget which needs to be covered, and it is usualy only chance... Got it? :)
Anyway.. Better times will come and one day It won't be problem to have starting BR of few hundreds... :P
Cheers
Well then a good start is to rob a bank-----after that life gets simpler!!!
ps: of course then you will make other issues problems: )
Ah my friend I am humble person in general.
For me, even half decent job at the point where I am standing now would be fine [smiley]aes/sad.png[/smiley]
My country has unemployment of almost 20%, and our tax here is 25% and it will raise as they are announcing! I believe highest in the world.. :o
HI Drazen
Very sad to hear that; Have u thought about leaving the boat.....; trying to
go to another country where the standard of living is better......
Cheers
Rouletta
hey Drazen ? Where are you--what country?
Croatia , Europe.
I'll see when I finish college, then I ll have more options to consider.
Cheers
There is no need to play it like roulette where winning is considered next to impossible.
It can be played far better.
Yes you can use the same sort of progressions that you use in Roulette in sports betting.
Don't forget the six point divisor was originally used for horse racing.
When I used to do a lot of betting on Betfair I used a few types like the 10% or 20% plan.
I also have a program that I used and still have that had around 25 progressions to test/analyse your selections out with.
It has things like Kelly, 1326, Parley, Labouchere, d'alembert and many more.
I have not come across any progression in Roulette that can not be used in sports betting if you so wish to.
Thanks
malcop
I just caution to use smaller bet amounts.. But overall casino gambling has made my sports betting ,,, very very good!!!
Quote from: Albalaha on October 22, 2013, 08:57:48 PM
There is no need to play it like roulette where winning is considered next to impossible.
It can be played far better.
Well I had great success by now playing like that, Tomla too and that is all play over fair amount of time..
To be honest as it goes now works much better then I was hoping before the start.
So can you explain how do you mean it can be played even better? In terms of money management?
Drazen
QuoteSo can you explain how do you mean it can be played even better? In terms of money management?
By playing only real high probability matches as I do. Have you checked my picks, their success rate and ROI? One can earn even flat bet.
Sports betting is lesser volatile than playing roulette and you can opt for picks with least risk (even at lesser payouts). Bet selection is the biggest asset in sports betting which is not true for roulette. I hope you got my point.
Yes I do and I am glad that you say too that volatility in sports is usually lower then in some others gambling areas (With reasonable playing of course)
I see your thread with sports picks and you are flat bet in plus. Nice.
I know that in sports betting most important thing for getting "less risk" is information. I have spoken with few true professionals in this area and they all say good information is the key. But of course that requires plenty of time to read a lot of sports portals, news, magazines etc.
I know that one of them is waking up at 4-am every day in order to collect earliest and best info's. But they all also use a bit of stats, and very important thing, weather forecast too...
All that takes enough of time to get "advantage" over bookies. I don't have that much time together with playing roulette.
But I know where to find such successful people who are competing in this and give free picks. That saves a lot of time.
Drazen
QuoteBut I know where to find such successful people who are competing in this and give free picks. That saves a lot of time.
Let me know about them too. So far, I have not seen better (in number of wins:losses and ROI both),
than my own picks, for so many months.
Please let us all have the best picks. It takes me up to 2 hours to sort one pick.
http://www.blogabet.com/ (http://www.blogabet.com/)
That is the place on which you can look for them.
It is place for sports betting blogs. You will see many of blogers there but of course not all are equally successful. But thing is that isn't too hard to spot who is good and how much, as under each avatar you will see percent of success and under that number of played bets in brackets.
Everything here is on order, in meaning of that one can't manipulate, change or be anyhow nontransparent.
Also you will see "market" tab there which means that one can buy or sell picks.
So Albalaha there is your chance to earn if you are so good at sports picking. Open a blog, show to people how good you are, and then they will buy subscription from you. Then you won't be able to tell how no one is gratefull for your picks and efforts.
So take a look around. For me one of the best places for sports bettors.
Cheers
QuoteSo Albalaha there is your chance to earn if you are so good at sports picking.
Open a blog, show to people how good you are, and then they will buy subscription from you.
You can see this sports section with my high probability picks and results thereupon and also in my blog.
The place that u r referring has such poor performance that the number one tipster of the place is earning only 3% yield in total.
Placed bet=$14380 and return=$ 14817.56
this is happening after 2155 picks.
you are looking at it wrong.
Best guy has yield of +47% on 308 picks
Anyway...
Cheers
@Drazen
If you got strong MM, you can check on Betfair, horse "Place" market, lay the odds around 2,
that makes around 20 bets everyday.
Well ozon, I don't know nothing about horse races.. But thanks, maybe I ll try few bets :)
Cheers
If you play looking only for odds, its random with deviations like roulette.
Place market, UK recings.
Lay or Back.
I can't agree on deviations as I am almost convinced that in sports betting they can't be like in roulette... For horses or dogs I dint have a clue..
As I have never seen that one even lousy sports tipster misses 10-15 picks of about 1.90-2.00 odds in a row.. Actually far from that. I consider myself half amateur in this and even I was long distant from that and I played and earned nice sum of units by now..
And I was just yesterday playing with Bayses tool and run onto 30 of an EC in a row! My personal record :o Incredible.
Cheers
Drazen
Horse and dogs are more random.
Using tipsters , You have more edge, but with horses alot more chance to play , If You want try this , mayby You like it.This is only proposition for good MM. You can always use bot for horses like Betbotpro.
Quote from: Albalaha on October 23, 2013, 05:52:32 AM
By playing only real high probability matches as I do.
Have you checked my picks, their success rate and ROI? One can earn even flat bet.
Sports betting is lesser volatile than playing roulette and you can opt for picks with least risk (even at lesser payouts).
Bet selection is the biggest asset in sports betting which is not true for roulette.
I hope you got my point.
Albalaha, Just a food for thought for you.
Sports betting need not be practiced just betting on high probability matches.
It can be played differently as well. As an example, I would like to point you to two different links.
Share what you think.
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Can you see the win-loss ratio of this Ricky77 and mine? He has 24 wins and 46 losses in his picks. I have merely 8 losses with about 35 wins in my high probability picks. He is winning by use of progression(betting from 1 to 10 units). Don't get impressed by results and see the quality of his picks. Use such progression in my picks, you will earn 4 times higher than that.
Albalaha. - if I may say so, you are just blinded by your success and not being able to look beyond your success.
1. Did you ever sit down and calculate how much you have earned? Is your yield as good as more than 80%
2. He is not using any progression. You have not looked at the post at all. Don't make conclusions without going through his posts.
3. What is in a win ratio. Because you are a roulette master, let me put it this way. Betting 25-30 numbers will give you high probability. Betting single number less. Will you look into win ratio?
I appreciate the tremendous work that you are putting here and I admire your winning ratio. But this is just an attempt to open your eyes in a completely different direction. It is up to you whether you take this in a positive or negative manner. My job done. Imagine what could happen if you are able to extend your win to such high return odds?
You could chose to be a frog in the well or a modern day combat aircraft with a range of armories. You decide. My last post on this subject.
If you talk of roulette and sports you should know that win:loss bets doesn't have such far distance in payouts as a single number bets and EC.
I have analyzed picks of many tipster like him.
They are using 1 to 10 units bets in variety of situations then earning more in more losses and lesser wins.
They are not clairvoyants to pick high paying bets that can give more money in lesser wins.
24 wins and 46 losses is a crude joke and if such performers are your idols, I can only pity on you.
Ok Albalaha. May God bless you with your winning streaks and long may it continue
Quote from: Tomla on October 22, 2013, 03:57:13 PM
divide into catogories or different bets, and slowly go up in money won with no stress. I have losing days but that has no effect on the final tally.
Playing both sides independently doubles the fun :)
Some sort of progressions work like the one used in roulette like in sports betting. But I haven't tried this out yet though.
If you can play as roulette? Sure. It gets some advantage in sports betting ignoring statistics at our disposal? Do not think so.
Sports betting I see them more like game stats which are officially worth. the other casino games are considered unofficial value of the statistic. Only valuable for the casino.
Two different types of leagues if you ask me.
Quote from: Tomla on October 22, 2013, 03:57:13 PM
I divide into catogories or different bets, and slowly go up in money won with no stress.
Hey Tomla, interesting. Can you explain this a bit further if you can. Just for the benefit of everyone here.