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Title: Good Wheel Bet?
Post by: HG1 on September 20, 2013, 08:30:44 PM
The quest of all Roulette players is to try any find in which pocket the ball will end up.

[Moderator's Comment: Please avoid swearing on the forum! Let the little white ball remain white...and not red. LOL  Thank you.]

So lets'd try this. I will try and explain it as well as possible, as to avoid confusion, but please ask if anything is unclear.


1. We measure the Zscore of the movement per spin in the same way as we would measure the Zscore of numbers 0-36, ie if the last 2 numbers spun is 0 and 32, and we measure the movement clockwise, it will be 1. If the last three numbers spun is, 0,32,0 the measurement will be 1,36. If the last four numbers spun is 0,32,0,17 the measurement will be 1,36,8.


2. After 74 or 111 spins(I am thinking 111, as that is 3 stat cycles) we look at the lowest 10 Zscores for  pockets 0-36, 0 being a repeat, 1 being a next door to the right and 36 being a next door to the left.


3. We then measure the Zscore for each number and after 111 spins, we look at the 10 numbers with the lowest Zscores. If one of these numbers coincide with one of the lowest Pockets we play it. By play I mean we play the number, all of its streets, all of its corners, and all of its splits with min progression until  we are in profit.


Ideas?
Title: Re: Good Wheel Bet?
Post by: Mr J on September 21, 2013, 02:34:15 AM
 :scared:
Title: Re: Good Wheel Bet?
Post by: Albalaha on September 21, 2013, 03:50:51 AM
Is it a method or voodoo? Sorry for starting with a rough note but this belongs to notepad. It is not a system but merely a brainstorming idea, in my humble opinion.
Title: Re: Good Wheel Bet?
Post by: wannawin on September 21, 2013, 03:58:39 AM
Quote from: HG1 on September 20, 2013, 08:30:44 PM
please ask if anything is unclear.
Friend hg1. Excuse our amazement and reactions.

Many of us are not even clear how to calculate the zscore. We have heard of it but we are not mathematicians.

Articles like the official leave us worse. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Standard_score (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Standard_score)

It would be very commendable if you clarify the zscore for us to work with you better.

Thank you very much.
Title: Re: Good Wheel Bet?
Post by: HG1 on September 21, 2013, 05:46:37 AM
@ wannawin


MBB has clarified the calculation.


@ MBB


The same, as I explained, a repeat will be 0, next door clockwise,1 and next door anti-clockwise, 35.


@ albalaha


Perhaps we need a little voodoo, nothing else seems to work. And bud, please your reply was not rough, and even if it was, I don't really care. I want to use the forum to get other input on my ideas, no matter if what my ideas seem like.


@ MrJ


There is really nothing to say.




Maybe I should have asked this question first.


How do we know a good RNG from a bad one?


The two most important parts of the answer to me is.


1. The must be no underlying pattern.
2. Over x spins the numbers will have a very equal distribution.


One thing that I have noticed in the 9 hours I have studied Roulette is that systems that is too mechanical gets busted first. This type of bet selection will not be 100% mechanical and the betting method can be changed at will according to what testing data shows.


Like I said before, I have an idea, and wanted some input.







Title: Re: Good Wheel Bet?
Post by: Albalaha on September 21, 2013, 06:20:50 AM
Quote2. Over x spins the numbers will have a very equal distribution.

            I disagree with this. There is no fill in the gap thing in a random distribution. The gap may even get wider. Check number 3 of zumma or say any data for this matter. Random means totally upredictable and "fill in the gap" makes it little predictable, so forget this condition. This may be only good as a hypothesis. You may see a number hitting only 3-5 times in 1000 spins. It doesn't make RNG lesser fair.
Title: Re: Good Wheel Bet?
Post by: FLAT_IN_O on September 21, 2013, 07:36:13 AM
--Over x spins the number will have a very equal distribution---

--will it be 100,1000 or 10000 spins one never knows...if we could predict
  this, we all would be in Macao playing now or either cruising world wide
  in many of their casinos........instead we are writing to each other,hopping
  someone will finally crack it.
Title: Re: Good Wheel Bet?
Post by: Turner on September 21, 2013, 08:59:13 AM
I planned to ask why we are considering one directional movement when the dealer spins both ways...but RNG is mentionrd so I change my question to .....Why would we consider wheel movements on RNG?.
Title: Re: Good Wheel Bet?
Post by: HG1 on September 21, 2013, 11:04:05 AM
@ albalaha


I am not talking about fairness in RNG, I am talking about distribution in RNG the Zumma numbers is only 15000, and then it ends, if could extend that run to 50 000, I bet that the situation would look a little different.


@ flat_in_o


True


@ turner


The wheel is still round, the wheel still comes in play with several bets, my question would be, why NOT look at it?

Title: Re: Good Wheel Bet?
Post by: Albalaha on September 21, 2013, 12:26:55 PM
QuoteI am not talking about fairness in RNG, I am talking about distribution in RNG the Zumma numbers is only 15000, and then it ends, if could extend that run to 50 000, I bet that the situation would look a little different.

  So, you are going to make a strategy that may extend upto 50,000 spins or more? Aren't you confusing all including yourself?

Title: Re: Good Wheel Bet?
Post by: Turner on September 21, 2013, 12:37:42 PM
Tough audience eh? lol