I have mainly been playing with flat betting. Now I am using a kind of positive progression. The probability that I win (and go one step up) is 0,55555555557.
It is only a question of time, before I´ll reach the next level. Time is still essential; and if you have the patience to continue after many [smiley]aes/coffee.png[/smiley]breaks, this might interest you. In my test series I have chosen to end each session after winning with eight units on one number. But feel free to build a bigger ladder!
Four sessions (European roulette, rouletteRUs) resulted in 1082 units
131 -
-350 -
847 - .
As you can see, the results are very different from each other.
Today I tried the method on some lists from Spielbank Wiesbaden. The session required 270 spins and ended with -68 units.
LEVEL UNITS
1 X - 24
1 X - 26
1 X - 24
1 X - 22
1 X - 70 (I got a hir in spite of the negative result).
2 X 33
3 X 25
4 X 33
5 X - 26
4 X - 24
3 X - 47
2 X 27
3 X - 8
2 X 21
3 X - 34
2 X - 26
1 X 35
2 X - 43
1 x 8
2 X 2
3 X 8
4 X - 36
3 X 10
4 X - 32
3 X 23
4 X - 9
3 X 21
4 X - 8
3 X - 14
4 X - 32
3 X 26
4 X - 28 (I got a hit in spite of the negative result)
5 X 35
6 X 23
7 X 32
8 X 0.
.....................................After a [smiley]aes/coffee.png[/smiley] break I´ll tell you more.
[smiley]aes/coffee.png[/smiley] Yes I am a heavy coffee drinker!
There are twelve streets: 1-3, 4-6, 7-9, 10-12, 13-15, 16-18, 19-21, 22-24, 25-27, 28-30, 31-33, and 34-36.
I bet only one number per street. If 17 comes first, I bet 17. If 36 comes next, I bet 17 and 36. And so forth and so on.
If any street reappears, I cross out this group; and I leave the number that I just occupied there.
If I won, it is time to go to the next level. Say retrack and bet two units on each following candidate.
If I did not win, I´ll continue betting the earliest numbers of the other streets.
AS SOON AS TWO STREETS HAVE BEEN CROSSED OUT, I´LL GO ONE STEP DOWN AND RETRACK
There are three numbers in each street. The probability that one street comes twice without repeating its earliest number is 2/3.
The probability that TWO streets become repeats without repeating their earliest numbers: (2/3)^2 = 0,444444444444.
Now you don´t need a calculator to subtract it from 1 :applause: and see 0,555555555555555555........
Good luck!
Dane
TIME is still important! Clearly this system is not meant for impatient players who want to reach the goal tonight. Just remember that any [smiley]aes/coffee.png[/smiley] break or [smiley]aes/sleep.png[/smiley] does not change the laws of probability in your absence. Take a rest and continue the climbing later. With the probability of 0.55555555557 the numbers of steps is up to you (within the rules of the casino).
In my test series I decided to stop the session after winning on level 8. Only four sessions with lists from Spielbank Wiesbaden resultet in
-68 -319 +140 +281 units. And seven sessions with rouletteRUs resulted in 1082 +131 -350 +847 +90 +130 +130 units.
Coffee anyone?
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Thanks for sharing your progression with us DANE.
Quote from: Dane on July 22, 2013, 07:05:50 AMTIME is still important!
TIMING too :nod:
Quote from: VLS on July 22, 2013, 12:10:01 PM
TIMING too :nod:
Timing is the most important aspect for me when it comes to playing roulette.
Just next to that is awareness.
It is very easy to get caught up in the game. So the awareness needs to be 100% spot on for a player to be able to use good timing.
Quote from: Bally6354 on July 22, 2013, 02:52:30 PM
Timing is the most important aspect for me when it comes to playing roulette.
Just next to that is awareness.
It is very easy to get caught up in the game. So the awareness needs to be 100% spot on for a player to be able to use good timing.
"The world is as you are. Develop unbounded awareness
and the Universe will be yours". These words from Maharishi indicates, that he was a bit utopian. But I am sure that we can climb every mountain with my progression. In Time. And with timing.
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Dane
After just six sessions with lists from Spielbank Wiesbaden: 825 units.
- - 11 - - rouletteRUs 2427 - .
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Hello Dane,
just sitting here with my coffee and trying to figure your method :thumbsup:
if #17 hits I bet #17
#21 hits I bet #21 , #17
#35 hits I bet 35,17 and 21
now #16 hits :
do I bet 16, 35 and 21 ??
or do I ignore the 16 and stay with the 17 ?!?
2nd :
stepping up....
After my first hit, do I clear all my numbers and start the same procedure just with 2 units?
then 3 units etc....
Thanks for clearing this up for me.
Ray
Hello Dane,
I really like this method.
Sorry if I diverge but could we apply this concept to lines?
Now we have 2 sets of dozens instead of 12. each consisting of 3 lines
Thanks for your great contributions.
AMK
Quote from: rayhd63 on July 27, 2013, 02:54:53 PM
Hello Dane,
just sitting here with my coffee and trying to figure your method :thumbsup:
if #17 hits I bet #17
#21 hits I bet #21 , #17
#35 hits I bet 35,17 and 21
now #16 hits :
do I bet 16, 35 and 21 ??
or do I ignore the 16 and stay with the 17 ?!?
2nd :
stepping up....
After my first hit, do I clear all my numbers and start the same procedure just with 2 units?
then 3 units etc....
Thanks for clearing this up for me.
Ray
Hello Ray,
Right after #17, #21, #35, #16 we´ll neither bet #17 nor #16! Street 16-18 has come twice and must be abandoned. Bet only #21 and #35! And bet other numbers that may come from the remaining eleven streets. As soon as one more street comes for the second time, it´s time to clear alle numbers and start the same procedure. If we just won, the next step is with 2 units.
If we did not win inside the two repeated groups , however, we should go one step down.
"There´s only one step down from here, baby. It´s called the land of permanent bliss" [smiley]aes/angel.png[/smiley](Bob Dylan).
It is a basic fact that we cannot go down from 1 unit. So the next time we´ll bet 1 unit again. I tried to show this in one of my first posts here [smiley]aes/coffee.png[/smiley] Dane
Quote from: AMK on July 27, 2013, 09:55:21 PM
Hello Dane,
I really like this method.
Sorry if I diverge but could we apply this concept to lines?
Now we have 2 sets of dozens instead of 12. each consisting of 3 lines
Thanks for your great contributions.
AMK
hello AMK,
hello AMK,
One dozen consists of three lines or double streets (DS). 1-12 consists of 1-6, 4-9 and 7-12.
It might be a bit confusing, however, to deal with all DS.
We could concentrate on these lines or double streets: 1-6, 7-12, 13-18, 19-24, 25-30 and 31-36.
1-18 consists of three of these. And 19-36 consists of three too . It is easy to diverge and still play in accordance with the probability of 0.55555555557!
Bet the earliest of the three DS in area 1-18. And bet the earliest of the three lines in area 19-36.
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Hello Dane,
thanks for clearing this up to me.
Have you ever tried to combine the numbers with a street ?!?
e.g. If #1 hits you bet #1 and street 1 (1-3)
if #36 hits you bet #1,#36, street 1(1-3)and street 12(34-36)
I played around with it and it had some ups.
when I bet #1 and street 1(1-3) and the next spin was #3 , I had a win on the street(12X) and a loss on the #1(-1)
so as your methos says, I then deleted street 1(1-3) and the #1
That do you think ?!?
Ray
Hello Ray,
thanks for your suggestion.
SOONER OR LATER
too many streets come without a repeat. That´s why I don´t dare to use it.
Cheers
Dane
For some reason or other I did not have much luck on lines. So I continued my test series on single numbers.
Right after 13 sessions with rouletteRUs: 2000 units.
Right after just 13 sessions with spins from SPIELBANK WIESBADEN: 200 units.
Each session ended right after winning on the 8TH step as explained earlier.
In my next test I´ll stick to spins from Spielbank Wiesbaden.
And I´ll add more steps: I intend to end the session after winning with 20 units on one number.
Of course it takes many[smiley]aes/coffee.png[/smiley][smiley]aes/coffee.png[/smiley][smiley]aes/coffee.png[/smiley]
Dane
Hi Dane!
I will be a happy guy if you could show us how you play this for a session , because i Think if i should play this
like i understand it would demand a BR like very very big,you now see that i don`t understand it right.
Thank`s a lot!!
agesta
Quote from: agesta1 on August 02, 2013, 11:18:43 AM
Hi Dane!
I will be a happy guy if you could show us how you play this for a session , because i Think if i should play this
like i understand it would demand a BR like very very big,you now see that i don`t understand it right.
Thank`s a lot!!
agesta
Hi agesta!
Yes, we need much Money! And climbing up and down takes much time too. Each session ends, when I have won on the 20TH step. So you see, it would require many, many pages to explain every step of the way.
In real life one session is too long for one visit or one night. So I have decided to make use of exactly 120 spins from each list (from Spielbank Wiesbaden, table 3), until I´ve reached my goal. The 120 spins always starts with the first spin of the day. I initiate the test with the first spin from 01.01.2011. Beginning with one chip per chosen number.
36 Start betting 36.
26 Add 26 to your betting.
28 Add 28 to your betting.
20 Add 20 to your betting.
25 One street (25-27) reappeared. Leave 26! And do not touch 25 or 27!
8 Add 8 to your betting.
22 Add 22 to your betting.
14 Add 14 to your betting.
18 Add 18 to your betting.
36 TWO STREETS have reappeared. IT IS TIME TO CLIMB! We just had a hit with one chip on 36, so we climb one step UP.
...
It means that we now place TWO chips on each chosen numbers to come:
33 place two chips on 33
10 place two chips on 10 too.
29 place two chips on 29 too.
32. Street 31-33 must be abandoned now. So leave 33. And do not touch 31 or 32.
30 Street 28-30 reappeared too. IT´S TIME TO CLIMB AGAIN. But we had no hit, so we must climb one step DOWN.
...
It means that we now place one chip per number to come:
3 start betting 3
28 add 28 to your betting
34 add 34 to your betting
9 add 9 to your betting
14 add 14 to your betting
8 Leave 9! And do not touch 8 or 7!
15 TWO STREETS HAVE REAPPEARED. IT IS TIME TO DO SOMETHING. As we had no hit, we should go one step DOWN. But as we are playing on "square one", so to speak, we must just place one chip per chosen number next time around:
...
1 place one chip on 1
21 place one chip on 21 too
31 place one chip on 31 too
4 place one chip on 4 too
34 place one chip on 34 too
32 Street 31-33 reappeared. So leave 31! And do not touch 32 or 33.
13 add 13 to your betting
12 add 12 to your betting
8 add 8 to your betting
0 We ignore zero and rebet the chosen numbers
8 TWO STREETS BECAME REPEATS. And we just had a hit. SO WE CLIMB ONE STEP UP NOW: TWO CHIPS PER CHOSEN NUMBER TO COME.
...
20 place two units on 20
12 place to chips on 12 too
17 place two chips on 17 too
24 place two chips on 24 too
24 WE HAD A HIT! It´s time to climb one step up:
THREE CHIPS PER CHOSEN NUMBER TO COME:
.............................................................................................
13 start betting 13
19 add 19 to your betting
17 add 17 to your betting
35 add 35 to your betting
21 Go away from 19. And do not touch 21 or 20.
24 add 24 to your betting
24 HIT.
By now you must know what do to: GO ONE STEP UP.
PLACE FOUR CHIPS PER CHOSEN NUMBER TO COME.
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[smiley]aes/coffee.png[/smiley][smiley]aes/coffee.png[/smiley][smiley]aes/coffee.png[/smiley][smiley]aes/coffee.png[/smiley] Dane
Thank`s a lot for the explanation, now i will study this and try it out!
I am really glad for this, thank`s again!!!
Agesta :nod: :nod:
Quote from: agesta1 on August 02, 2013, 03:24:27 PM
Thank`s a lot for the explanation, now i will study this and try it out!
I am really glad for this, thank`s again!!!
Agesta :nod: :nod:
Always glad to help. It goes without saying that much patience is needed :zzz: :zzz: to climb all those steps.
Dane
In my recent test I won approx. 2,500 chips - but then I lost approx. 3,500 chips.
Instead of climbing even higher it might be better to be modest:
To end the session if we have won for instance 500 units.
Dane
Hi Dane,
if I see it right, after you go up 1 unit , you start tracking from scratch.
Why not leave the unhit numbers ?!?
And is it right that you go up one level after a hit?!?
I go down 1 unit after 2 unhit streets?
Thanks
Ray
Quote from: rayhd63 on August 04, 2013, 01:02:03 PM
Hi Dane,
if I see it right, after you go up 1 unit , you start tracking from scratch.
Why not leave the unhit numbers ?!?
And is it right that you go up one level after a hit?!?
I go down 1 unit after 2 unhit streets?
Thanks
Ray
Yes, we go up 1 unit after a hit.
After each "move" we retrack and look at the next numbers only.
If it is possible we sometimes go 1 unit down. Not after 2 unhit streets as you suggest; but only when two streets have come more than once after the latest "scatch". Please study at the example to agesta
Dane
After more testing I have to admit: This system is not good enough. Sorry. However, I still believe that a kind of positive progression (betting more after a hit) is better than a negative progression.
Dane
I agree a little into there then--2close wins!!!--love