Quote from: Ophis on January 31, 2013, 05:05:20 PM
very funny. keep on dreaming...

i think you should start playing with your own real money...  can't wait for the results.

Very funny? It's true.

ignatus

Beware of thinking it can't go X.  It can usually go X + 1 and will do it.

You're one of the good guys!  Just be careful.

Sam

Here's a trigger for you. Count to ten, open your wallet, grab all you money, light it on fire, and scratch your head. Next, take the clue.

Quote from: Gizmotron on January 31, 2013, 05:54:07 PM
Here's a trigger for you. Count to ten, open your wallet, grab all you money, light it on fire, and scratch your head. Next, take the clue.

Stop talking s***

It can go for long time, but it as well can bust fast. If it just win enough before you will have some from it. The bust is a matter of time, believing anything else is ignorance. All game has risks. So it is possible you will win, and maybe a lot, it is possible you will lose a lot too.  Use funds you can spare!

Hi Ignatus.

I don't play the numbers....BUT i do enjoy your POSITIVE posts within forum-land wherever i see them.

Please continue...you have my vote.

All the best.

Dino.

Ignatus...why do you not ever listen to people who have far more experience in testing, study and play than you? 

No one here is trying to beat you down...we offer constructive advice and then you get offended and it spirals a little outta control sometimes. 

I can recall on another board being scolded by you for "complaining too much" when I tried to offer a voice of reason because you had invented the grail which I knew did not work...(this is just a month ago)...you would not listen to reason.  Your minions had run thousands and thousands of spins with defective math and were ready to own the casinos.  You continued to deride me and within 12 hours of the holy grails discovery it was fully tested, annoited, and anyone with a voice of reason shouted down...oh yeah..and then it was removed because of faulty math, faulty logic and it crashed and burned...   And...it did so in such a dramatic way that you removed the entire thread as if it had never happened.

Do you get your kicks by starting these kind of threads and then just try to keep punking people?

Just askin'.  Real players try to help you and everytime we all come away with the same feeling...every single friggin time.  I am sure I am not speaking solely for myself.  I do not know Gizmo or Ophis...have never talked to either.  But I've read their posts, and I've read yours.  You may not agree but you should take counsel and respond with a little dignity.  Take it for what it's worth.

Now just a tidbit on your 123-Move.  It's a 12 or 13 number bet with basically 3 sets of 3 fixed wheel sectors.  You just linked wheel sectors 1,2 and 3 together and called it dozen 1...wheel sectors 4,5 and 6 together...dozen 2.  Wheel sectors 7,8 and 9 together...dozen three.   It's not revolutionary.  You are talking to people like they have never bet wheel sectors before.  We have...we do. 

Some sector methods play the center sector and the two neighbors, sometimes people take the last number hit and it's direct 6 neighbors on either side (keeping with your dozens theme).  Some are looking for hot numbers and other sleepers, others are looking for patterns such as your 1.2.3 or 3.2.1.  People are speaking from experience that you are not giving them credit for because anybody that has been on the forums or around the wheels for any length of time have seen it, done it and know what the upside and downside of these methods are.  We are trying to tell you.

Many methods can be great if they are just 10% new.  Just a little different slant at the way you look at something.  Change the trigger, change a progression, implement mid-stream stop-losses...the list goes on and on so far as the tweaks that make a decent method an exceptional method.  The problem is many of the best tweaks make the methods difficult to track and play in live wheel sessions and that has to be taken into consideration as well.  There are many players on these forums that can be a great asset to you...don't keep driving everyone away and wondering aloud why no one will help you test today's great idea.

Quote from: TwoCatSam on January 31, 2013, 05:34:27 PM
ignatus

Beware of thinking it can't go X.  It can usually go X + 1 and will do it.

You're one of the good guys!  Just be careful.

Sam

it can go X + X too 

Quote from: Gizmotron on January 31, 2013, 05:54:07 PM
Here's a trigger for you. Count to ten, open your wallet, grab all you money, light it on fire, and scratch your head. Next, take the clue.

Ignatus please listen to other people, If you say you have seen it go to 7-8 do you not think it can then go to double that?
if you play this with your money you will lose it - friendly advice
if you don't belive us go and try it - just use small stakes so you don't lose too much

Quote from: soggett on February 01, 2013, 06:33:43 AM
it can go X + X too 
 

Ignatus please listen to other people, If you say you have seen it go to 7-8 do you not think it can then go to double that?
if you play this with your money you will lose it - friendly advice
if you don't belive us go and try it - just use small stakes so you don't lose too much

I won 4000, playing live. Never got a very bad streak so far, 7-8 spins without hit at most. TRUE. There may be extreme cases, but then one can play with stoploss at 4 losses in a row to prevet that.


Think it's bad people claiming this strategy won't work when they haven't played it.

Ignatus,when you say you play live,do you mean Live-Dealer ?

Quote from: dino246 on February 01, 2013, 11:12:25 AM
Ignatus,when you say you play live,do you mean Live-Dealer ?

yes, live roulette. Played again at DublinBet won +500 in less than 100 spins.

Thank you for your answer.

I will try and help with this concept of yours by revisiting my Live Dealer B+M spins and report the results.

As i have posted before,i don't play number methods but as i always note down the spin-numbers even though i only bet D/C vertical matrix,i sense this idea is worth the effort as you have done.

Hopefully other members might follow suite,BUT only with Live spins.

Quote from: ignatus on February 01, 2013, 11:05:48 AM

I won 4000, playing live. Never got a very bad streak so far, 7-8 spins without hit at most. TRUE. There may be extreme cases, but then one can play with stoploss at 4 losses in a row to prevet that.


Think it's bad people claiming this strategy won't work when they haven't played it.

Ignatus if its working for you its working. don't be put off by the  detractors who say mechanical trigger based methods don't work.

They work fine. The arrogance of people who swear they know better without even showing us a working method never fails to amaze me. So keep playing and winning. 2013 is the year that trigger based methods and progressions come of age.

The realization that consistent winning with THE RIGHT METHODS that use such pratices is very possible. Will start to enter into alot more minds by years end.

Quote from: ignatus on February 01, 2013, 11:05:48 AM

I won 4000, playing live. Never got a very bad streak so far, 7-8 spins without hit at most. TRUE. There may be extreme cases, but then one can play with stoploss at 4 losses in a row to prevet that.


Think it's bad people claiming this strategy won't work when they haven't played it.

I am not a bad man
I do want you to make money, I just think you are a little to eager with roulette, its not an ATM machine
Your attachement "session6" if I am correct you have a 11 spin loser there, and it seems you are not playing the way you say you are
there are L's then nothing then again L's

I have nothing against you, go make money I'll be happy for you

Ignatus, please answear me this

do you play:

A)  wheel dozens coming in:
1
2 - trigger to bet 3
1 - L and trigger to bet 3
...

second example:
1
2 - trigger to bet 3
2 - L, no bet as no trigger
1 - trigger to bet 3


or do you play
B)  wheel dozens
1
2 - trigger to bet 3
2 - L, bet 3
2 - L bet 3
1 - L bet 3
...


it hit me that I may have gotten it wrong
from what I understand you are playing the B way, but from your sessions I don't know anymore
I think I am not the only one
you can see why we told you 10 L is nothing, it can go bigger, you can have ie
1
2 - trigger bet 3
2
2
2
2
1
1
1
1
1
2
2
2
2
2
1
3

now that's 15 L's in a row, but playing the A) way it is only a win on step 4
please can you clear this up? thanks