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Started by ignatus, January 25, 2013, 11:34:17 AM

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RouletteKEY

Like we covered on the other board...your wins need to be large enough to be meaningful against the losses... which are inevitable...just sayin'

Bet selection...just like Gizmo said...and it you get a 15 or 20 spin sleeper...you're gonna get lots of triggers...because it's just going to keep bouncing back and forth and every bounce is a trigger if you are playing all flow combinations.  The only way you survive it is with long streaks of the other two dozens and very minimal chopping...which isn't likely in that scenario. (yes it's possible...but it only takes once against a small bankroll to put you out of business on this type of method)

ignatus

You can speculate it won't work. That's just wrong. Facts are different from fiction.


Take a short look at the patterns reccuring all over (see livespins I've posted) OR Play it, you'll see


Sputnik

 
I test two similiar ways toward this one.

First one is based upon that you follow the first hit dozen until six loses.
Then you follow the last hit dozen until a win or six loses.

This make dozen hit in pairs for six times with no show twice with one particular dozen.
Sometimes you can pass 300 trails making 1K and sometimes it just fail/tank.

Now you could use that strategy based upon the same principal as your method with the same random element as above.

Now lest say dozen 1 and 2 hit and you play three attempts that dozen 3 should show.
It does not, then you wait until dozen 3 show and take the previos dozen befor it and next play the missing dozen for three attempts.

There is many ways to twist this kind of games with dozen.
This one you mention can get very long losing runs.
One dozen can sleep for 32 times in a row.

But i am sure that if you clustering the selection towards other random elements like random against random, then you can blaim lady luck when you lose it all.
The nice thing with the strategy is that you can build a pretty solid staking plain into many different levels, where the ending levels is pure recovery mood winning back 10 20 30 40 50 % of your bankroll.

So you could have a lot of action and fun with this kind of play.

ignatus

Are you playing this Live or RNG?


his is a wheel-dozen pattern, not ordinary dozens.




"One dozen can sleep for 32 times in a row" Yes, (that's an extreme case). Losses happens. But patterns do not appear all the time, and when they appear they hit. Normal winrate is 75% never less than 60%

Sputnik


It looks like this where each sequential cycle has three shows based upon i wrote.

WLWLWLWWLLWW


2
3
1 W
2 W
3 W
1 W
3 L
2 W
1 W
2 L
2 L
1 L
3
3 L
2 W
3 L
3 L
2 L
3
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3 L
2 W
3 L
2 L
2 L
3
3
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3 L
2 W
2 L
2 L
3 L
2
3
1
2 W
3 W
1 W
3 L
3 L
1 L
2
1 L
1 L
3 W
2 W
3 L
2 L
3 L
3
3
3
1
2 W
1 L
1 L
3 W
3 L
2 W
2 L
1 W
1 L
2 L
1 L
1
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Sputnik

Quote from: ignatus on January 25, 2013, 11:46:28 PM
Are you playing this Live or RNG?


his is a wheel-dozen pattern, not ordinary dozens.




"One dozen can sleep for 32 times in a row" Yes, (that's an extreme case). Losses happens. But patterns do not appear all the time, and when they appear they hit. Normal winrate is 75% never less than 60%

I did not understand what you mean by that "wheel-dozen pattern"
I know that the numbers on the wheel is not in the same order as the table.
Are you saying you use the number rings layout and not the table layout.

Not sure i get your drift correct ...

Albalaha

It is a nice "out of the box" approach but as Gizmo said and my personal experiences taught me, any betselection will get big sleeping time and those who are not prepared to handle that or believe that "it won't happen to me"lose all bankroll at some point of time.
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JohnLegend

The wheel or the layout is not the way to beat roulette longterm for me. Keep in mind the history and beliefs about this game being impossible to beat longterm.

COME EXACTLY FROM THOSE PLACES. The average Joe turns up at the casino and bets against the wheel or layout. And the average Joe loses longterm.

The way to do it, is create your own matrix or layout. Scrutinize randoms behaviour in a different playground. Your findings can be life changing.

Ralph

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I can see a bad run rather frequent, if the wheel is live or RNG. On the other hand it may hold for a while.

Gizmotron

Quote from: JohnLegend on January 26, 2013, 05:25:02 AM
The wheel or the layout is not the way to beat roulette longterm for me. Keep in mind the history and beliefs about this game being impossible to beat longterm.

COME EXACTLY FROM THOSE PLACES. The average Joe turns up at the casino and bets against the wheel or layout. And the average Joe loses longterm.

The way to do it, is create your own matrix or layout. Scrutinize randoms behaviour in a different playground. Your findings can be life changing.

How would you know? They don't say "the blind leading the blind" for nothing.
"...IT'S AGAINST THE LAW TO BREAK THE LAW OF AVERAGES." 

JohnLegend

Quote from: Gizmotron on January 26, 2013, 05:59:29 AM
How would you know? They don't say "the blind leading the blind" for nothing.
How would I know? I won't even answer that. The numbers will talk for me this year.

spike

Quote from: JohnLegend on January 26, 2013, 06:06:02 AM
How would I know? I won't even answer that. The numbers will talk for me this year.

You don't have to wait, they're talking for you already.
Ask Bayes..

Gizmotron

Quote from: JohnLegend on January 26, 2013, 06:06:02 AM
How would I know? I won't even answer that. The numbers will talk for me this year.

You mean you won't dignify it. You are as clueless as to imply my ignorance as your own. But I'm not the one telling everyone to wait, you'll see.
"...IT'S AGAINST THE LAW TO BREAK THE LAW OF AVERAGES." 

JohnLegend

Quote from: spike on January 26, 2013, 06:17:12 AM
You don't have to wait, they're talking for you already.
Ask Bayes..
No Spike you need to pay more attention to what's going on. When I say NUMBERS. I mean the thing that wakes most people up. HARD CASH. You will be talking until the end. Like me or hate me. This year people get to know im for real.

JohnLegend

Quote from: Gizmotron on January 26, 2013, 06:24:05 AM
You mean you won't dignify it. You are as clueless as to imply my ignorance as your own. But I'm not the one telling everyone to wait, you'll see.
Giz talk has its limits. I did enough of it. You and your accomplice do nothing but it. You may aswell get as much attacks and slander in as you can between now and July.

After July your words will be empty and pointless. The only thing that matters will be on this forum for all to see. And ongoing to even greater levels. So continue.