...is to let people expose their ideas fluidly.

It's OK for the ideas exposed here not to be tested; it's all about letting creativity flow like a river flowing into the sea, without bounds. Right as they come.

Participation on the threads should be limited to encouraging comments and additions/tweaks on the idea. Since this is a tiny space for unabridged expression, if you see something you don't like, just let it pass.

We're big boys who enjoy letting our minds ride. In this corner of the forum, the ride is entirely judgement-free

Enjoy your stay around!
Vic

Spot-on dear friends.


This post  is complementary: http://betselection.cc/gambling-philosophy/(manrique)-why-do-system-players-lose-how-do-we-win/

I have to give 2 news, one good and one bad
Let's start with the bad: There is no system that always win
On with the good: Despite this you can win at roulette.


There are no foolproof systems, ie earning 100% of the times they are executed, many systems exist which earn more TIMES than they lose.


Why then do people lose?
Recall that there are no foolproof systems.


System players lose for 2 reasons:
A) They lose for using plain bad systems, losing "systematically" because they are based on false premises which violate all "business logic". It is easy to detect a bad system, just see if the behavior proposed by the system corresponds to what would an entrepreneur do. Example: no good businessman would buy an item that did not sell, and certainly never would he buy more quantity the less the item is being sold. Now watch systems out there, and then tell me. What is a growing progression but an investment on what is not selling? It is true that we have to have a degree of perseverance, but not so disproportionate to keep buying more black balloons, those that no one asks us about.


We can not base all our business success plans in the hopes tomorrow an epidemic of taste on black balloons will unleash, more so when other stable businesses succeed selling balloons of other colors.


B) They lose for when they possess relatively good systems, they do not have the endurance to use them consistently, or patience and tranquility through adverse times, which there inevitably will be.


Theory of Manrique's Relativity of systems


The theory is: the same actions lead to different results when the circumstances are different.


And at roulette everything is always different, no two sessions are the same.


Therefore the bonanza of a system depends on the sample being tested but can not be conclusive about future behavior being identical.


Since there is no system that wins 100% of the time it is practiced, we find that to be a winner, we must win by balances. WHEN and HOW these balances are produced is no more and no less what makes lose the system player.


For systems that lose, it's pretty easy to see: for it is impossible they always win, and at times they lose ergo we can never know how and when they lose (if we could know then it could help us avoid losses which would be infallible).


How can we win?


Through impeccable conduct, professionalism and mastery of a SET of techniques, tactics and strategies, better yet grounded in solid theoretical foundations.


We must use the systems just as the best way or perhaps the least bad way of trying to exploit the dynamics of balance and imbalance in the game, and we will not only study the dynamics for the numbers coming out but for the results they produce.


We must try to limit the dispersion in a small segment, which in turn limits our results, and then we use events to multiply these segments which are the most confined we can, by having a large number of micro-banks to reach valuable percentages in the balances, as in Guerrilla Warfare, attack as often as we can and as our attacks are positive it will increase our overall strength, but at the slightest misstep, we shy away at all costs leaving quickly risking the less from the advantage that we have.

While the search is oriented toward a "system" people will remain a Perfect Loser.


Does this mean that the systems are useless? No, but they are only part of what it takes to win.
Like the anatomy to a doctor, you need to know one or more systems, like a doctor needs to know a lot of anatomy to practice successfully. A professional will need to master more than systems to win.


What separates the professionals from the great professionals, is not so much the domain of knowledge, but the approach to implement such knowledge.


Do not give me a system, give me a concept. Always said my great teacher (Nono Santelli)


Manrique.

Good one Biff  . Thanks for sharing it with us.

May the fantastic outcomes hold 

I've edited-out a little from your post for ti to stay. It's a good rant 

http://phys.org/news/2013-01-antigua-copyright-haven.html

Thanks for advicing Sam.

If the winds continue blowing the correct way, chances are the US is going to regain the ability to let residents enjoy betting online. Tax the thing, keep 'em happy.

Curious how american residents can buy many sorts of extreme materials from their home (digital and physical; some bordering the illegality) yet what a scandal for an US person to put money on watching a bowl with a white ball spinning...

  Congrats on the win dear Sumit.


No-deposit bonuses are quite a thing to earn. They are supposed to be the hardest! It's literally beating the casino with their own money, so for a player that's a double sweet win.

Hello dear fellows 

Just wanted to comment about the currently scheduled forum re-install's process.

As the forum's admin it's my duty to devote the hours, yet I'm currently doing what could be considered the equivalent to manual labor in the IT world with my current contract.

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In short: I get home beaten and don't want to touch a computer anymore for the day ...But still...I'll make an effort to keep us on schedule, doing the re-install within the week as announced since we need it to move the community forward 

Work will be done at random intervals, which means it's going to be SLOW and the whole process will span through several days. So we'll have a short-handed place for a while. Some features WILL be missing in the base install until brought back; yet on the brighter side the fresh set of sources eliminates current software cruft and opens the door to new features. i.e.  enhanced tags support (disc, matrix, chart, felt, session, etc.), a custom subscription system to welcome and reward coders who join us to serve the community, new smiley browser, as well as other extra goodies [attachimg=2].

The forum re-install gets started anytime now. If you see the site unavailable, please retry later. Some efforts from yours truly plus some downtime coping from you guys will get us through the week; for us to have a lovely, enhanced place for the year 2013 

Cheers!
Vic

What happens with a 100% warned (muted) user?

He'll be muted for 4 days.

His posts will be moderated for 3 days.

He'll be in the mods' watch list for 3 days (i.e. all his posts will be monitored, but they will pass).

In total, it's a process lasting 10 days.

Good ideas dear Walter. They are possible but will have to wait until next forum re-install. It's not too much longer, it is scheduled for the week of the 10th to 16th of this month.


"Ping" me once the re-install is done regarding your request.


Chances are they will materialize; all of them

...We're trying to find some middle ground in here.

Inaction = The offenses will repeat, in a worse note each time. It ends in a Full-blown Boiler.

Plain ol' banning = (This is how several other forums deal with these issues) I see it as the sledgehammer approach. The offense is granted not to repeat, simply because the user is "killed out".

By taking a middle-ground stand here with warns we're trying to educate our users, without losing the faith in them.

The offending user sees a direct consequence of his actions, and has a certain time out to re-think.

I do believe we're mature enough to exercise self-restrain when addressing another fellow poster. These warns support the notion of us having confidence on it being a "slip" in the posters' self-control, but still considering the person good enough to mend his path after the brief time given to re-consider.

Guys; our rules are conscious and balanced, like they say:

QuoteIf you use your common sense you'll notice by reading around we are trying to maintain a top-notch space for bet selection discussion

Nobody gets a warn for sticking to common sense rules, and -paraphrasing what you mentioned Sam- considering saying the same to an ol' harmless granny as well as to a big bad keeper/security hunky guy.

When we happen to think about our reaction should the very message we send being addressed to us, then I'm certain we will all live in peace and bearing with each other just fine, since we will treat others as we'd like being treated ourselves.

Quote from: TwoCatSam on February 06, 2013, 01:34:03 AM
I consider myself warned!   

The reason being reports from the topic:

http://betselection.cc/general-discussion/trigger-this/

--That topic really "triggered this" (warnings).

Unfortunately, as long as people don't follow your finely expressed common-sense guidelines, measures must be taken. We really want to foster a clean environment for all members involved in the discussion.

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Quote from: Bally6354 on February 06, 2013, 12:01:11 AM
However it's also a shame that people just can't get on with one another or just ignore anyone they don't like.

We are all adults.

I too would prefer people not to recur to personal insults in the first place.

Also, the idea of having every user as a proactive watcher is appealing from an administrative point of view.

Remember the mods are the only ones who can issues warns right now.

Our forum now implements an user warning system.

It's point-based.

The warning range is 0-100%

10-30% = Result: User will be added to moderator watch list.

35-55% = Result: All user's posts will be moderated.

60 - 100% = Result: User will not be able to post. (user is Muted)

Warned user gets 10% decremented per day after receiving the warn. This means the warning level slowly fades out of the account, gradually.

All moderators can issue warns right now.

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The discussion is open regarding the possibility for any regular user to be able to issue warns (i.e. max. 10 points) in order to bring people to mods attention; as well as -in case there is public outrage- for the community to mute an offending user on their own.

Feel free to post your views on this.

Regards.