Quote from: VLSAgreed with Iggiv; caution is always a must in gambling 

If the patterns aren't there, just don't get stubborn. Look at how many people has gone broke because "it must show".

Good thing about roulette is that when something itsn't showing at the expected theoretical rate, it is because something else is showing at a bigger rate than expected, so you must keep your eyes open and never be stubborn.

In roulette being stubborn on a location (or getting in love with a certain selection or numbers) doesn't pay. The only thing your must learn to love in roulette is the constant change and the extremes; of course, when you ride it   

Quote from: iggivit is hard. since roulette is random it does not like consistent patterns on a long run be it table or the wheel. but sometimes it looks like it is working on some wheels.

Quote from: Lady KI appreciate your advise Iggiv... and caution. 

Yes, I read Scoblete's book last December when I started on my journey into the world of gambling... he has an entertaining style of writing which makes for a good read.

I read many books, and played a lot on my own (learning by doing). But I only really started understanding how to play correctly, with stop/loss and money-management... here on the Forum.

And now that Victor has introduced me to disc-play, it has completely captured my fancy. I look forward to exploring this "wheel" on it's entirety.

Quote from: iggivUnfortunately this alone is not working on  a long run (as it is)  but you can try it with some tweaks like:

strict money management, for example

50% of your bankroll stop-loss, wingoal 10% of your bankroll, then waiting for many spins before you come back. You can also combine this with other strategies.

but as it is (without small win goal) it is working on a short run only occasionally. Big losses will come very soon if you just keep playing. Test in RX carefully a lot before you try it on real money. Roulette is tricky, what seems to be winning on one wheel, may lose on others and vise versa. That's why using different spins from different casinos (with RX for example) is very important.
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And Frank Scoblete in his "Spin Roulette Gold" offers some similar strategy (not exactly the same) which may win occasionally as well. you can find it on Amazon. But again -- he is telling that it may not win on every wheel, rather on some of them with bias. you can find a possible bias like this quickly without clocking wheels. Your chances to win are not reduced on unbiased wheel like this, but if a wheel is biased you just may win with neighbors and repeats.
No guarantee though.

In general roulette kills consistent patterns on a long run, but on a short run they may win. So hit and run may help.

So be aware

And one more advice. Avoid betting on cold numbers like this. Track the spins, so if u wanna bet on a neighbour "inside the clamp" which did not show up within many spins, better don't

Quote from: Lady KHi Victor,

I read your Million / Trillion Neighbors. Then I started playing and tracking the wheel, observing patterns. I noticed lots of neighbors, buddies, and best friends.    I also see repeaters, numbers spaced evenly apart, arcs, and teeth with gaps wanting to be filled.
Then last night, I read your Neighbors again and it all came together. Wow!   

Do you divide the wheel into sectors when tracking? I had the disc first split into 3, and then 4... and I read Kimo Li has 6 sectors.

Why have you chosen a 37-cycle? Is this somewhat flexible or to be strictly adhered to?

As I understand, if we are +1, or the 37 number cycle is over... we stop and start a new session. Can we play back to back, or is it better to take a break and/or change table? How many sessions would you suggest in one day?

As you advise, I do like to follow trends and ignore sleepers. You speak of continuation...  this trigger is an event we are looking for which could apply to any particular number, and when this event happens once, its more-than-likely going to happen again?

I really appreciate your Table Layout From the Wheel/Disc, which you posted... I was thinking I should do this and was pleasantly surprised to find the work already done for me. Thanks.

K

Quote from: VLS on January 14, 2013, 02:45:23 PM
Oh! Talking about disc. Let me upload a printable disc/wheel.

This one I like because it has all numbers facing towards the player:

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Since there aren't further bug reports, I take this is good enough to pass to official release.

Thank you dear Testers.

Perhaps: "Hybrid Positive Progression"

Having traits from Positive (rise on a win), as well as negative (rise to recover only).

... taken from the short-lived roulette study site.

Feel free to continue the discussion here.

Quote from: VLS
Very interesting approach you have there with the columns John.

Dealer signature or Random in action?

Perhaps in their principles they're all one and the same! It's a "closed game" in the end. The ball only have a limited set of "ways" during the spin.

Physical aspects in the game are also affected by trends (i.e. the trending diamond, the trending ball impact spot, trending jumps/scatter, etc.)

Thanks and do keep the eyes sharp!

Quote from: john gold
3 losing games across all three columns can hurt as this screenshot shows.

That's why I suggest looking for some good trends if playing the 3 column approach.

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Quote from: john gold
The numbers I used for this example came from random.org. There were the first cab from the rank so to speak.

You can see another win on the very first attempt for the second column.

These sort of runs do happen where you can get short bursts of very quick wins.

Once again, the best results are coming from column 2 which is represented by the pocket distances. Yet the numbers are coming from RNG.  So it's no 'close spinning' croupier in action.   

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Quote from: john gold
Allow me to explain a few more of my thoughts on this.

If you adopt the 3 column approach, you will come to see that you get the same amount of bets and results on all 3 columns. This is important to understand because a few will look at the 'claudio3' method and think that it revolves around some kind of dealers signature. I don't think it does. It is just the nature of randomness at work.

I certainly think the 3 column approach gives you more options. One column might not be working so well. Another might be on fire. Look for the trends and follow them.

cheers.

Quote from: john gold
I will need to explain properly how to use the three columns revolver because it is not so straightforward. The good thing is that I can use the screenshots above to explain it.

So let's get into it.

The first column pretty much explains itself. That is the traditional approach to the 'claudio3' method.
You obviously understand why the 21 was a winner on spin 19.

Now for the slightly more complicated events of column 2 and column 3.

Column 2 takes into account the pocket distances in a clockwise motion. So the first number is 27.
Looking on a single zero wheel, count around from the 27 to the next number which is 14. You should count 14 pockets.

The important thing to remember is that you will always work out your bets from the last number.
So let's look at the win in column 2. The pocket distance 15 came up twice. So now I am going to bet for a pocket distance of 14 and 16 which compliments the 'claudio3' rules.

The first bet was from the actual number 21 if you look at the screenshot. So what is the pocket distances of 14 and 16 from the number 21.

Answer... 5 and 16.

5 came out on the next spin making it a winner.

That explains how column 2 works with the pocket distances.

How does column 3 work?

Imagine a clockface with the numbers 0 to 36 running clockwise.

So looking at column 3, the first qualifying bet is the 7 because it comes up twice.

So now I want to play the 6 + 8.

Once again, I always work out the bet from the last number spun.

So I have to work out the first bet from the number 31. I will count clockwise on my clockface a further 6 + 8 numbers from the 31.

Answer...0 + 2. That was a loss because the number 9 spun and that went around 15 numbers on our clockface from the last number which was 31.

So let's look at the winning bet now in column 3.

The previous spun number was 33. I had to count forward 6 + 8 numbers on my clockface. (don't forget to include the 0 in the count.)

Answer... 2 + 4.

The next number in was 2 and is a winner.

I tried to explain it as best as I can. I hope that helps.

cheers.

Quote from: john gold
So to show you how the game progressed.

There was a bet in all three columns within the first 19 spins and they were all successful.

cheers

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Quote from: revolver
interesting...