Quote from: Lady KHello dear Victor,

I know you've been busy and me I've been practicing. 
As Iggiv mentioned and I agree, this may work on some wheels (I think some "types" better than others). I never trusted RNG but I have been practicing with one as I can go at my own pace while learning. They keep throwing so many repeaters at me (which could be a different game, LoL) it's difficult sometimes. I used colored pencils yesterday to see the "layers" more clearly and actually got a hit that way. I can imagine what my casino would think if I were to walk in there and start coloring, haha. It is interesting though to see what part of the wheel is more active as the repeats tend to clump together. Do you ever bet the repeaters? And I would like to ask, which do you prefer for this method: live, airball, and/or RNG? 

I answered my own question about length of play, when I read your Zone Maximum post. On the 18 spins after the 37-cycle there are sometimes so many dots! You wrote if there are large contiguous areas already hit, to bet the "lesser ones". Do you mean the dots without repeats, or around the one dot that may be standing alone still?
Do you continue and try another 18 spins whether you've had a hit or not?
What is the least amount of numbers you have bet at one time... and the most...?

I appreciate your comment about not getting stuck on certain numbers... yeah, I was doing that.
As for misplacing a bet... been there, done that too. Never play when you're tired!
Also your comment about keeping my eyes open... I now try to be more aware of everything happening, and go with the flow of what the wheel is doing at that particular moment.   

I like watching the design the ball makes when moving from one part of the wheel to the other. Fascinating really. That must be possible to track somehow.

Great fun this!
K

Quote from: VLS
>> Look at how many people has gone broke because "it must show"

Cycle play protects you to a certain extent from the negative extreme situations, since you have a definitive point of exit, you aren't going to be suffering situations like chasing a double-street for 60+ spins pumping money after money on something that just isn't showing (ask F_LAT!).

By only continuing what is currently appearing, you protect from those.

Limited cycles also equal to limited mistakes too. In case you mess a bet, you aren't going to have to suffer a huge downfall in your bankroll, like it can be -for instance- to a heavy progression player misplacing a chip and not hitting a spin where he should; especially on the last steps of a heavy progression.

Treating each cycle as a separate gaming unit has its benefits over other strategies, specially when dealing with such type of extremes.

Quote from: VLSAgreed with Iggiv; caution is always a must in gambling 

If the patterns aren't there, just don't get stubborn. Look at how many people has gone broke because "it must show".

Good thing about roulette is that when something itsn't showing at the expected theoretical rate, it is because something else is showing at a bigger rate than expected, so you must keep your eyes open and never be stubborn.

In roulette being stubborn on a location (or getting in love with a certain selection or numbers) doesn't pay. The only thing your must learn to love in roulette is the constant change and the extremes; of course, when you ride it   

Quote from: iggivit is hard. since roulette is random it does not like consistent patterns on a long run be it table or the wheel. but sometimes it looks like it is working on some wheels.

Quote from: Lady KI appreciate your advise Iggiv... and caution. 

Yes, I read Scoblete's book last December when I started on my journey into the world of gambling... he has an entertaining style of writing which makes for a good read.

I read many books, and played a lot on my own (learning by doing). But I only really started understanding how to play correctly, with stop/loss and money-management... here on the Forum.

And now that Victor has introduced me to disc-play, it has completely captured my fancy. I look forward to exploring this "wheel" on it's entirety.

Quote from: iggivUnfortunately this alone is not working on  a long run (as it is)  but you can try it with some tweaks like:

strict money management, for example

50% of your bankroll stop-loss, wingoal 10% of your bankroll, then waiting for many spins before you come back. You can also combine this with other strategies.

but as it is (without small win goal) it is working on a short run only occasionally. Big losses will come very soon if you just keep playing. Test in RX carefully a lot before you try it on real money. Roulette is tricky, what seems to be winning on one wheel, may lose on others and vise versa. That's why using different spins from different casinos (with RX for example) is very important.
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And Frank Scoblete in his "Spin Roulette Gold" offers some similar strategy (not exactly the same) which may win occasionally as well. you can find it on Amazon. But again -- he is telling that it may not win on every wheel, rather on some of them with bias. you can find a possible bias like this quickly without clocking wheels. Your chances to win are not reduced on unbiased wheel like this, but if a wheel is biased you just may win with neighbors and repeats.
No guarantee though.

In general roulette kills consistent patterns on a long run, but on a short run they may win. So hit and run may help.

So be aware

And one more advice. Avoid betting on cold numbers like this. Track the spins, so if u wanna bet on a neighbour "inside the clamp" which did not show up within many spins, better don't

Quote from: Lady KHi Victor,

I read your Million / Trillion Neighbors. Then I started playing and tracking the wheel, observing patterns. I noticed lots of neighbors, buddies, and best friends.    I also see repeaters, numbers spaced evenly apart, arcs, and teeth with gaps wanting to be filled.
Then last night, I read your Neighbors again and it all came together. Wow!   

Do you divide the wheel into sectors when tracking? I had the disc first split into 3, and then 4... and I read Kimo Li has 6 sectors.

Why have you chosen a 37-cycle? Is this somewhat flexible or to be strictly adhered to?

As I understand, if we are +1, or the 37 number cycle is over... we stop and start a new session. Can we play back to back, or is it better to take a break and/or change table? How many sessions would you suggest in one day?

As you advise, I do like to follow trends and ignore sleepers. You speak of continuation...  this trigger is an event we are looking for which could apply to any particular number, and when this event happens once, its more-than-likely going to happen again?

I really appreciate your Table Layout From the Wheel/Disc, which you posted... I was thinking I should do this and was pleasantly surprised to find the work already done for me. Thanks.

K

Quote from: VLS on January 14, 2013, 02:45:23 PM
Oh! Talking about disc. Let me upload a printable disc/wheel.

This one I like because it has all numbers facing towards the player:

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Since there aren't further bug reports, I take this is good enough to pass to official release.

Thank you dear Testers.

Perhaps: "Hybrid Positive Progression"

Having traits from Positive (rise on a win), as well as negative (rise to recover only).

... taken from the short-lived roulette study site.

Feel free to continue the discussion here.

Quote from: VLS
Very interesting approach you have there with the columns John.

Dealer signature or Random in action?

Perhaps in their principles they're all one and the same! It's a "closed game" in the end. The ball only have a limited set of "ways" during the spin.

Physical aspects in the game are also affected by trends (i.e. the trending diamond, the trending ball impact spot, trending jumps/scatter, etc.)

Thanks and do keep the eyes sharp!

Quote from: john gold
3 losing games across all three columns can hurt as this screenshot shows.

That's why I suggest looking for some good trends if playing the 3 column approach.

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Quote from: john gold
The numbers I used for this example came from random.org. There were the first cab from the rank so to speak.

You can see another win on the very first attempt for the second column.

These sort of runs do happen where you can get short bursts of very quick wins.

Once again, the best results are coming from column 2 which is represented by the pocket distances. Yet the numbers are coming from RNG.  So it's no 'close spinning' croupier in action.   

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Quote from: john gold
Allow me to explain a few more of my thoughts on this.

If you adopt the 3 column approach, you will come to see that you get the same amount of bets and results on all 3 columns. This is important to understand because a few will look at the 'claudio3' method and think that it revolves around some kind of dealers signature. I don't think it does. It is just the nature of randomness at work.

I certainly think the 3 column approach gives you more options. One column might not be working so well. Another might be on fire. Look for the trends and follow them.

cheers.