People usually think of positive progressions as a "Hit it big" sort of scheme, but they can also fit a recovery strategy perfectly.

Time ago I was discussing a reversed Fibonacci with fellow forumer "Toby"; he made it clear it may not be necessary to hit the table limit to get up, only to be in profit.

It is quite a valid point indeed, and one I think conscious players would eventually come to realize.

Those upward "spikes" in the bankroll balance created by the power of positive progressions, with CASINO's money, can perfectly suit a smart player's exit strategy.

I know, I know... That pesky internal gambling bug is saying: "The next bets could be the big winners" and "better to find out how much ca$h can be raked-in"... but it is up to the player to use a more conscious approach than a plain "all in" for the next spin; think along the lines of a 50% increase instead of a full, 100% all or nothing stake.

It is important to keep as well as to make.

Remember; winners know both: when to push, and when to draw.

The next time you are using a positive progression instead of going "for the win", trying to reach the stars and breaking down the house, remember this advice and go "for the recovery" instead.

Paraphrasing the words of a good ol' friend of mine: it's not what you make at the table, but what you keep to your home what adds-up.

Cheers!
Vic

 Break-Even Point March. It obeys the reason of betting two opposite events(Dozen repetition and Non repetition) alternatively. Which flat betting usually have the tendency to float up and down, in cycles, making it an option for a placeholder bet without rising the unit, or by the addition of a positive progression, a nice candidate for grinding some profits in regular sessions of play.

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March's procedure:

A:When a dozen repeats, play the last spun dozen hunting "Dozen repetition" event, for 3 spins. Moving from dozen to dozen as they are spun.

B:If after 3 spins there is no dozen repetition, then switch to betting againstthe "Dozen repetition" event, by playing the other 2 dozens, uncovering last dozen spun.

When a dozen repeats, go back to A. this is a "loop", or better expresed, a March.

Zeroes aren't reacted to. When a zero appears, bet selection continues as usual, even as the bet is lost.

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Ok, what use might a "Break Even" march have other than a placeholder bet? Well... adding a positive progression the charts tend to go upwards, enough to wrap a strategy around it.

I have used the pluscoup positive progression along with this and had good results.

i.e. this:

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Best regards,
Victor

Lucky Strike made this question: "When is your money your money?" I did have at a point to answer that myself many moons ago; how much to keep for my personal (and familiar) expenses, how much to re-invest? Answer = a good round number is 50%.

Let me explain my take on the 50% Money Management from scratch with 3 starting banks as lifetime-bankroll:

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This is the main scheme: To explode as much as possible 1st bank's unit value and to create as many minimum-value banks to act as "cushion" between you and the casino as you can make. The more banks the better because in gambling having available bankrolls to play is life itself.

If you are playing you'd want to own the profits as soon as you finish your session, but also your stack of banks needs to grow. Under the 50% framework, after a winning session you split the 100% won amount like this:

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50% to you, the person playing and 50% to re-invest.

The re-invested 50% amount is again split in half (25% + 25%) and distributed equally to increase the unit value at the 1st bank you want to Explode in the $$$ value and to help in the creation of new banks to serve as more cushion between you and the casino.

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As you have a successful inter-session winning streak (several sessions won in a row) you grow the unit value at the first bank, and this triggers more actual money for you to have your 50% cut with each session, increases more rapidly the number of minimum-value unit banks as "cushion" and also enters in a positive loop by re-increasing 1st bank's $$$ value per unit.

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If you hit a bad inter-session streak (several concatenated sessions lost) after losing the first bank, a minimum-unit value bank is taken from reserve and you give back / lose the least $$$ possible as the value is returned the minimum again.

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Please remember the more fragmented the unit the better. If you play for instance the dozens with 1 unit = 10 chips, you can enjoy rising in decimals like this: 10.1 = 11 chips placed on the dozen. 10.3 = 13 chips placed, etc. when using "solid" units ( 1 unit = 1 chip ) this is not available.

And of course, feel free to use this Money Management scheme with the system that suits you better.

Hope it helps.

Best regards from your friend,
Victor

Hmm, perhaps a split view of recent topics + recent posts can be implemented later.

Say 15 recent topics /15 recent posts, or so. Just musing..

It's implemented 

Great idea Ophis. I think I can get this implemented today.

Quote from: Ophis on January 13, 2013, 02:12:35 PM
If this topic will be lost in flood i will write a bot to BUMP it every 10minutes.

LoL

Thanks for sharing with us dear Max 

Quote from: sqzbox on January 11, 2013, 12:18:44 PM
[...]tackling the "game", not the "odds". 

I like the sound of that.

It reminds of what a fellow poster said. You must act as if spins weren't independent.

Independent spins mentality is clearly that of the game being 1-spin long, past outcomes being detached from anything in the future as well as regarding every bet in every moment of the numerical stream as the same... but if you pretend the game does keep a correlation, that it paints an "statistical picture" where past, present and future correlate, then you might devise bets that make sense, as long as the game behaves within the boundaries it usually does.

If I recall right, even if "anything can happen" in an independent trials game, in practice not everything happens, the game does keep itself within certain "statistical walls" or "boundaries". always with the possibility of breaking them to unlimited amounts (i.e. 100 reds and more), but in reality behaving as if past spins and future spins could communicate up to a point (less than 40 reds); leading to the expected "painting" or "picture", made out of officially non-correlated happenings, bearing no sense of boundaries by itself due to its independence, but yet presenting a set of boundaries in practice.

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I like to think of it as throwing a fist of sand to the air with all your strength. Given the wind is random "anything can happen". Your grains of sand could be picked by an air stream and end up in the middle of the Sahara desert. But in reality, chances are it lands within the boundaries of your eyesight.

Quote from: XXVV on January 10, 2013, 11:49:50 PMComing out of this is Clumping Theory.

The solution to the short-term, long-term dichotomy is simple and well known:

- The short-term is all about imbalance.

- The long-term is all about balance.

Take for instance the splitting in 37-spin cycles. There will be around 24 numbers in most samples, there will be gaps with unhit numbers on the wheel unique to each cycle... but when you superpose all cycles, you get an evened-out picture of a wheel with no discernible pattern. All samples of 1,000,000 spins should be somewhat the same. There shall not be an skewed gap in such an amount of sets.

The skewed 37-spin sample is what the player plays.

The evened-out overall sample is what the casino plays.

The punter plays in the short term. Hence it's the short term which he has to beat. The smart punter catches the events unfolding within a time-frame he can cope with realistically, within the boundaries of his session bankroll.

The probability of beating the "long term for the casino" is: 0.

But on the other hand, there is a possibility of beating the short term imbalances, riding them as they unfold.

Then it comes the paradox-like scenario: beating the short terms we would be beating the long term. The sum of enough winning trams necessarily means a winning overall balance.

This looks like a paradox on its own, but it isn't.

The reason is simple, because no matter how many spins we play in our lifetime it is still "short term"; everything we win in life is scheduled to "even-out in the long term". But there's a chance we won't be there as meek ​​lambs. Imagine you catch -say- a 30 series of red with a positive progression. You are "scheduled" to give it all back "in the future": in fact, by means of the game remaining faithfully even in the long term, a series of 30 blacks is scheduled to appear, which should be certain to take it away... if you play like a robot for the rest of your whole life backing RED. In real-life we don't act that way. In fact, the smart bettor wise enough to catch such a long series of Red as it unfolded would also catch the series of 30 Blacks as it unfolds too. Paradox or not, mind you!.

Quote from: Juiced91 on January 11, 2013, 03:29:03 AMGood thing I started the topic, posted the graphs and a story of a possible winner.

Thanks Juiced 

We're a TEAM in here

+1! Thanks TC 


They do help 

Quote from: Juiced91 on January 09, 2013, 07:41:58 PM
Didn't mean it in a bad way.

No offence taken 

Thank you John.

I'll actually use any monies to pay for hours for coding the framework. So yes, it's aiming to be a tester, clicker and bot 

*: By dynamically I mean re-counting with each and every single spin.

Throughout the 37-spin numerical cycle you'll see how this dynamic half changes.

On the American wheel you use 19 numbers as a even half.

On the European wheel, you use 18 numbers and deal with the uneven half problem by counting ONLY within areas of 18 numbers and selecting the one which has the most numbers on it. The other half immediately becomes the 19-number opposite one.
It might be the short side of uneven, but it's better to use 18 than giving yourself the advantage of the 19er. You get a better picture of the stronger area this way

I once talked about the difference between TRIGGERS and FILTERS.

Triggers add numbers to the pool. Filters refine those numbers.

In this case of wheel targeting, filters can be applied to it such as the simple one of splitting the wheel in two; DYNAMICALLY* identifying which half has the most numbers spun on it currently (simple count). Then you filter-out the numbers activated by triggers in the dryer half and focus on the enabled ones from the loaded half.