Go ralphbot, go! 

 I'm going to put the coding hat on in order to make the recycle bin modification. We can make this "middle point" work 

..."Interfering" being an entirely subjective concept. An inventor would like as much interference as possible while he's working because he derives new ideas from interruptions of people suggesting him how to do things. An artist might not like any kind of interference since he's inspired and doesn't want to attend someone selling "his way" of painting to him while he's capturing his expression on the canvas.

Both should be able to draw their own line. This model allows each type of poster to do so.

This was posted at the moderator's lounge when talking this over.

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In short: the benefits of keeping the feature outweigh the bad aspects. By far.

I talk from past experiences: how frustrating it is for a member to see his thread gone to sh1tters (as per whatever standard he might consider it) and NOT BEING ABLE TO DO ANYTHING.

The only stand against a bad post on the regular forums is to make ANOTHER post and things can and regularly go "doo doo" well into mudslinging before any action is taken. Original poster can get a warning by firing back, so basically what is expected from him is to keep quiet, take the beating and patiently wait.

THIS DRIVES QUALITY POSTERS AWAY.

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Regarding freedom of speech, there is nothing taking away the ability to post anyone's point of view in the forum, it is only about the "WHERE" a member can post it. Each member has his own space under this model, each member can care for his/her own space.

In real life, IT IS EXACTLY THE SAME. You are free to speak your mind. But you aren't free to go a museum or a certain property that isn't your own and start preaching your views on the megaphone. We seem to be doing good this way.

Of course the guy with the megaphone is going to argue about it, but it is overall better for society if we don't let others do as they wish where they please. Megaphone guy's ability to tell anything he wants isn't being taken away: he retains full free speech rights, he can do so outside the museum if he wishes, but the line is drawn on exercising free speech where it interferes with other members of the community.

In real life, we don't see anybody lobbying for the ability to enter someone's home by force and preach on his living room... food for thought.

Garn, kindly check your PM's.


Cheers!

QuoteI would like to at least have my ideas back as i can never put it twice the same way.

This can be arranged. The forum has a recycle bin for deleted posts.

I'll flex my admin muscle to work and set it up so members can see their own removed posts.

When? "In a few days". I'm afraid I can't put an exact date, but rest assured your topics are there.

Quote from: TwoCatSam on December 02, 2012, 08:48:20 AM
Also, what do you mean by "symmetrical"?  I think of a leaf that, when you fold it, the outer edges match perfectly.

Hello dear Sam, kindly bear in mind there are several types of symmetry:

You're referring to reflection symmetry with the leaf example.

I'm referring to translation symmetry with felt twins.

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Rotation symmetry:

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Translation symmetry:

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Reflection symmetry:

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Glide Reflection symmetry:

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http://mathforum.org/sum95/suzanne/symsusan.html

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It’s like we are both talking about cars, just with different models in our minds

No biggie!

Quote from: Garnabby on December 02, 2012, 04:04:21 PMLook, Victor, this one's going to "end" where all the others do without something which works, and is practical to apply, at the casinos.

The challenge will be up forever. Chances are we are all going to die without seeing the magical method beating the game "ad infinitum" (holy grail).

This doesn't mean we must all go bitter on each other or not even try to foster an exchange of ideas about our ways to play, even as everybody knows they come with no guarantees. It's gambling in the end.

I do advice newcomer people to get hooked on testing rather than on betting. I have said it before: "Stop playing until you have something that works for you". It might look like common sense, but it is the best advice. If you do risk playing without having "done your homework", then consider it recreational betting. Nathan's disclaimer holds true for every method posted on the internet.

Quote from: Garnabby on December 02, 2012, 04:04:21 PMCan go on forever about the "fun" of posting, etc, but that sort of fun is, after all, a sad joke.

About this, I iust want to mention there IS fun in posting and discussing with like-minded people (at least for me and several other fellows around)

Garn, we all have a clean slate in here. You are invited to participate in a friendly and positive manner, since you are knowledgeable.

Best regards.

Quote from: TwoCatSam on December 02, 2012, 08:41:12 AM
Victor

I notice in your first post, the felt you link us to is different from the one you use to mark the hits.  Which one do we use?

They are actually the same for this method's purpose.

The one in here saves us from jotting three marks, so it's advisable to use it:

I would love to continue, yet it's well past 3 a.m. here.

Hopefully by now you get the gist of the method.

Cheers!
Vic

We get a hit on #30:


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Hit ends the cycle.


Final cycle balance: +33

#5 is spun:

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It makes a new bet, #29:

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Since it enables the following felt twins:

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Cycle balance: -1

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Bet: 29, 30

We re-track up to number #24:

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There is a bet with #30:

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Making:

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New cycle begins.

Starting cycle balance: 0

Bet: #30

We get a hit with number #3:

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It closes the cycle.

Final cycle balance: +34.

Time to re-track again.

We re-track backwards until #30:

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We stop here since we have bets in our tracking sheet:

#21

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Making:

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And #3:

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Making:

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We start the new cycle like this:

Starting Cycle balance: 0

Bet: 3, 21