We must balance "free speech" vs "free trolling".

In my view, there is free speech as long as anyone retains the ability to start their own thread and express his/her opinions freely.

As to the removed posts, I can arrange the forums' recycle bin to show each user his own removed posts, in order to being able to recover and reposting them when considered to exercise his right.

Something I'm certain about is we don't want "free trolling".

Should we be having a poll on this?

Quote from: Bally6354 on November 21, 2012, 03:35:42 PM
I like the idea of 'troll free' posts 

While it's true they are forced, there's absolutely nothing about the "how" or "where" the ads should be placed.

Steve banned mentions or linking to here. So it isn't a surprise his ads belong to the bottom of the pages, with a proper message above them.

If Steve wants popups, I'm flat keen to give up being owner/admin just for the pleasure of removing them altogether. He's better to keep them for the benefit of search engines.

I've banned myself already from his premises. Changed the password of my accounts typing whatever with my closed eyes and changed the email address to garbage so they are fully unrecoverable.

He's leaving it clear site support is a one-way street with him; he doesn't want anything to do with us other than reaping on our visitors, so it isn't surprising his ads are moved to the bottom.

...So if you have the chance please support us by spreading the word.

As simple as mentioning us when you are discussing with your gambling fellows.

Or if you have a website, facebook page or blog, posting a link to us will help.

Thank you

Just for the record: I, Victor, Reinstated Admin, personally think a lifetime of free ads is excessive.

But I accept it if that's what it takes for the stability and long-term peace of our community.

The first decision of the council is: ROLL IT ALL BACK:

This is a most-pertinent quote from a saavy mod:

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[...] sometimes we simply have to accept a via media -- a compromise position --  is a sensible course of action. As in this case.

Otherwise we will have dissension, disruption and uncertainty that will drive members away. It happened before, didn't it, when SH flexed his muscles?

Just accept his conditions.

Then we can move forward from there  with a stable platform for the future.

So the forum goes back to exactly where we were, Steve's ads are going to be run "Ad perpetuum" here.

Quote from: Wally Gator on November 21, 2012, 01:39:13 AM
Victor,  have you give this any thoughts or tests with the "8 train" approach as a bet selection method?

No, I haven't. Perhaps a fellow can do some test runs if he so wishes

I know this is good to boost concatenated hits within 37 spins, don't know up to what extent would it be for the "8 train" hits.

An oldie requested by Sam:

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This is a legacy program based off an oldie codebase, hence should be taken "as is".

Download: [attachmini=1]

Cheers!
Vic

As title says: topic starters are moderators of their own topics now 

With everyone being a "Topic moderator" taking care of their own started threads, the work of Global Moderators should be easier from now on.

Wow, that's a creative way. Thanks for giving it a thought

Quote from: Bally6354 on November 20, 2012, 04:25:54 PM
I was just thinking of ways how we could be self sustaining without the need for ads

Good thing is we *ARE* already self-sustaining without the need for ads by direct support from members 

Quote from: albalaha on November 20, 2012, 04:10:59 PM
Do you mean to say, two is enough?

I mean to say I've learned in this game one should be careful in the way you manage the wins you have in your hands. If there's no reason as to look for a 3rd or 4th hit, then it is better to withdraw what you have collected for the cycle.

On the other hand, perhaps you have studied deeply the likeliness of a number coming 3 times and develop a strategy upon them (which truth be told, isn't that far-fetched, a number showing 3 times in 37 spins could be argued to be a regular happening). If such is the case, go for it 

Quote from: albalaha on November 20, 2012, 03:57:09 PM
Is it limited to two hits only or we may go further with it as well?

Three and more hits can be pursued by the same proportions in the calculations:

( 36 * <units bet> ) / Spins left.

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Just bear in mind the fact that the more hits pursued, the lesser the probability to successfully attaining win goal for the cycle.

You always have to ponder risk vs the likeliness of reward.

Cheers.

Quote from: subby on November 20, 2012, 02:17:42 PM
What is a "zone" how is it defined?

Definitions and illustrations can be found here:


http://betselection.cc/meta-selection/zone-and-'super-zone'/

Quote from: subby on November 20, 2012, 02:17:42 PM
What is the betting situation...how?

1) Let 37 spins pass.


2) You bet from spins 38 to 54 that a larger zone will be formed.


Regards.

Quote from: monaco on November 20, 2012, 01:56:18 PM

hi Vic - what do you mean by betting 'the lesser numbers' in this context?

I mean the less amount of numbers per spin.


This happens because when a large zone ends the cycle, you likely only be 2 or 3 numbers.