Hey! If you provide your target casino's name, there's a chance to get its number reader done as a BetSoftware 3 module

It's a bit muddy right now to be honest.

The best scenario I can think of is having TWO forums:

1) Separate spaces for members to publish whatever they please (i.e. a site made out of personal spaces).

2) This one, a traditional forum focused on systems study banning all sales @ Betselection.cc except for our own products and sponsors.

Having sellers pay sure deters random spammers. Even if sponsorship payment is small, the fact is simply having to support to sell is a deal breaker for 99.99% of spammy folks. They just move on.

Any case, it must be an all-or-nothing picture to avoid biases. Until we develop such a multi-forum, it's going to keep on being a gray area where we nuke blatant spamming sellers but keep those who provide a certain degree of benefit to the forum.

Hope this clears a bit regarding where we stand right now

Vic

Quote from: esoito on October 21, 2017, 06:33:45 AM
But one minute Iceland was the flavour of the month.  The next minute  no more Iceland, and now we're in bed with the Netherlands.

So what happened?

Prices on the one hand. Iceland host was extremely good legal-wise but prices were quite high. For instance a €100+ euro per month plan gets us fewer resources than a less expensive plan we can order for ~€25 @ the Netherlands.

On the other hand, most web hosts merely require nothing but a simple abuse@web.host email to get your entire web operation shut down which is unreasonable. Especially for sites like ours, open to 3rd party posts/submissions. A small negotiation period does wonders(!).

We have western values and our forum has a report button on every post, so as long as there's a reasonable argument for it, we'll take it down. All we ask for is due process. Something very good about legislation in the Netherlands being the fact truth is a valid argument, made in good faith to help the public interest. It's a very reasonable legal protection to have:

"Libel (Art. 261(2); smaadschrift) is an act of defamation that occurs by means of publicly accessible writing or images. It is punishable with a fine of the third degree of imprisonment for up to one year.
There is no liablity for criminal slander or libel if the act was necessary to defend the offender’s interests or the interests of others or the offender believed in good faith that the allegation was true and was necessary in the public interest (Art. 261(3))."

Source: http://legaldb.freemedia.at/legal-database/netherlands/

Original: http://wetten.overheid.nl/BWBR0001854/2017-01-01#BoekTweede_TiteldeelXVI_Artikel261

Iceland keeps on doing it great protecting journalists and wistleblowers but we aren't particularly concerned about the government coming after our small betting-study web operation so it may be an overkill. Furthermore, now we're focusing our offer on public domain releases we can safely say it would be a stretch to be fearful about groups of power targeting us. Possible threats are most likely disgruntled individuals. We have a reporting process to address this scenario.

In the end, we're happy enough with a hosting company that isn't keen to shut us down unless there are actual legal grounds for it + a fair legistation protecting individual free speech reasonably.

Lawsuits cost time and resources. Direct 1-to-1 resolution is in the best interest of both parties and precisely the (best) course of action we want to foster.

Quote from: TurboGenius on October 22, 2017, 02:11:01 AM
Is the insecure connection issue going to be fixed ?
(or was it addressed already ?)

We had it addressed at one point, green https://. After so much reinstalling back & forth it's back to red. Chances are we make a bold move by getting rid of this whole zombie SMF forum, continue developing our new one 'in vivo' then import the data as soon as we have a reasonable "feature-match" state.

A decision regarding "when" is going to be taken rather soon. Our forum's data is backed on multiple locations & we have all the reasons for moving toward having a rock-solid, hand-crafted engine of our own (initially) then devoting it to the public domain to complement our new site & offering

This operation is largely a hobby. We have no vested interests and our main fuel & intrinsic motivation is being a great platform for like-minded people to discuss betting topics.

That's truly it

Cheers & many thanks for caring! Every word of support means a lot

Thanks for your kind (and non-cliché) words & wishes for a great 5th year

We're running strong, aiming to our next five years of success

Thanks for your patience guys. We're back online form the Netherlands.

https://check-host.net/ip-info?host=betselection.cc

These have been some messy days but all the wishes to continue developing for you to enjoy remain intact

Time to resume regular operation!

Vic

Quote from: TurboGenius on October 15, 2017, 11:56:32 PM
Thank you

Quite a pleasure to see you around. You inspired me in the past, circa Arteinvivo's time

These are positive times with several things going on around within the week:

1) Our free BetSoftware tracker/tester/bot gets released (Version 3).

2) A new web engine being programmed from scratch gets online, parallel to this.

3) Me trying to make it as a public-domain creator & probably expanding our operation to PublicDomain.cc

You're more than welcome to accompany us in our transition!

2017-2018 is a nice time to join us. Looking forward to seeing your interactions around.

Welcome to the forum TG, it's actually great timing since it's our 5th birthday.

Any productive post is a valued gift around here

Vic

Quote from: Blue_Angel on October 15, 2017, 11:48:07 AM
That's great news Vic, keep up the good job!

It was paid thanks to a little bitcoin earnings saved. We haven't had a "Paypal donate" campaign since quite some time.

Quote from: Blue_Angel on October 15, 2017, 11:48:07 AMVictor has proposed me to do them for such low price, if it was even lower I would be even more happy, on the end it's more about time rather than money but I believe it worths the wait.

Yes, first a standalone for testing then a bot module.

Quote from: Blue_Angel on October 15, 2017, 11:48:07 AMLast but not least, not everything for everyone, the roulette should never be consider as an easy money maker!

Agreed. Human-based play is way too draining on the brain. Chances are it's a game for bots.

Only a program could sustain the amount of focused work needed to beat the beast for billions(!)

(That's spins)

Quote from: Blue_Angel on October 15, 2017, 12:08:33 PM
This was a very slow and gradual progress which didn't make me jump up and down from happiness like I'd have won the lottery...it took much time and money, it was expected and I deserved it.

Sincere congrats on the win!

Happy 5th Birthday BetSelection!

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Attaboy! Promise to give you a face-lift & actually devoting more time to caring for you properly this year.

Won't be a workaholic any more.

Cheers to many more years of love together

Vic

Thanks for caring Mike. As our Patreon count rises, we can hopefully create our long overdue free BetSoftware to be the community's multi-casino no-cost bot. (Finally!).

I learned the one site per niche lesson so it's BetSelection.cc from now on.

Goal isn't to be the #1 forum in the world but to be a warm & cozy community for like-minded fellows to enjoy.

Once you leave all expansionist plans behind, life's more calm & so much better.

You can truly learn to prosper in peace like this

Vic

Quote from: greenguy on October 15, 2017, 07:03:50 AMVictor should not have taken such a token amount for such a mammoth task, and you should not have offered such a pittance to earn a king's ransom.

In summary, you both deserve this outcome and each other.

It's okay GG, it was agreed by two consenting adults so no harm

I'm not doing any further private coding. Angelo is basically one of very few folks who can claim former paid code to be cleared. I work several contracts at once on a rolling basis; my commitments get smashed on a regular basis too but we go by. I'm typing this @ 3:27 a.m. so I work crazy hours, have a crazy schedule and in the end try to do my best with my wake hours before I "Zombify".

Any case, private coding is behind. Once the Patreon idea starts collecting I see it ending-up as a part-timer. I resonate with Patreon since my actual dream is doing what I love by working to create for the world to enjoy. Our Patreon releases are specifically devoted to the public domain for this reason. I'm a "creator" at heart, just need the steady supporter fan base to make it viable. A stream of steady weekly releases sure helps to shape & show the level of commitment. As we build it, everyone benefits. Sweet deal for all of us.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rwvUjAv6pxg

Quote from: greenguy on October 15, 2017, 07:03:50 AMWhether the forum soon closes or not is beyond me.

It's already renewed so we can sing Happy Birthday. I decided to scratch the new domain to reboot our forum "in-place" here @ BetSelection.cc for a long-overdue face-lift / refreshment.

Quote from: Blue_Angel on October 15, 2017, 12:05:12 AM
I've paid 75$ to program 3 of my methods and on the way I've agreed to avail them with bet software pro to all forum members as long as the bot will work with Paddypower casino, 1 of the casinos I'm using online.

Hello dear Angelo, thanks again for your previous support. All of them before month's end or full refund as agreed

Quote from: Blue_Angel on October 14, 2017, 08:58:54 PM
You've misunderstood, I think subscriptions come with more privileges than what's being offered for free.

Correct. Patreon rewards for $10/$20 provide priviledged access to Patrons + binding polls

Quote from: Lungyeh on October 14, 2017, 03:41:10 PM
I went to the homepage wanting to contribute to help the forum keep going but don't see a button to let me do so. Perhaps there should be an easy way for people to do so without any complications?

Thanks for your willingness to contribute dear Lungyeh. Our Patreon.com button's been added to the homepage

Quote from: alrelax on October 14, 2017, 04:06:26 PM
Same here Vic!  I could not find a button or a credit card/debit card payment button.  I do not do PayPal in the classical sens the way we used to, i can only do it like they do on Ebay or Amazon, using a regular credit card/debit card, I gave up my PayPal account years ago......

I get you regarding Paypal Glen. Uphold.com is where it's at these days.

Our BetSelection.cc domain has been renewed via uphold-issued credit card using bitcoin funds. It rocks!

Quote from: wannawin on October 14, 2017, 11:18:12 PM
it is not a misunderstanding, I have read and reread the said patron.com webpage. every weekend a program is given away so it makes 52 programs.

Correct Walter. As many free releases as the year has weeks. Either your proggie or one of Angelo's (as per the above) can be selected for week #41.

Quote from: wannawin on October 14, 2017, 11:18:12 PMif I buy on Monday for $ 20 USD then it is selected on the weekend and now what I bought with my hard earned money is free for everyone so it has no value now.

That's debatable. Perhaps your concept of value is merely having something denied to others. To me and others actual value lies in having new releases available. Some folk don't really mind others to use the same release; they just want the program to exist.

A fellow's Copy+paste doesn't prevent you from using your own copy @ your computer. Wonderful, isn't it?

Quote from: wannawin on October 15, 2017, 04:51:09 AMI was happy to receive my free program for next year but now the prediction is that the forum closes for not paying a trifle.

Thanks for your previous support. Please monitor our Patreon weekly space to snap a free copy of your program as soon as it's up for grabs.

Domain name is renewed by now so hopefully we can put the topic to bed

Thanks @ everyone for caring & participating 

Vic

Quote from: Bayesyou would put one unit on each of 3 sixlines, the first being the "coldest", the second the "hottest", and the 3rd "average".

Would it be okay for the procedure to be:

- Coldest is always the furthest back.

- Hottest is considered looking back using 6-spin batches, excluding zeroes, picking the one with the most hits.

- Warm / Average would be the DS appearing exactly 1 time for the most consecutive cycles.

May you play with illuminated chips in your bankroll at the heavenly stars.

R.I.P. Brian

Quote from: Blue_Angel on October 03, 2017, 06:08:11 PM
Thanks Max and apologies for my fellow forumers if I got of the track with my previous post.
Perhaps I didn't derail this topic too much but just a bit, I guess Vic would intervene if I was foul, anyway so far so good.
Back to the topic, we want to gamble on roulette, not on forex cryptocurrencies right...? 

No Problemo, the gist is betting and withdrawing anonymously, with the word on the web being this mode of anonymous wagering appearing as ideal for citizens from countries which can't bet on regular online premises.

One can easily imagine many of these players as simply being normal people merely wanting to place a bet on red.

Cryptocurrencies are just a means for this.