Patriots-Giants Week 6 point spread is historic on multiple levels
By Darren Hartwell October 09, 2019 10:42 AM

"The New England Patriots will face stiff competition one day. But that day is not Thursday.

The Patriots opened at SuperBook USA as whopping 16.5-point favorites over the Giants in Week 6, which makes sense considering New York is on the road facing the best defense in the NFL and could be without Saquon Barkley, Wayne Gallman, Sterling Shepard and Evan Engram.

That's the fourth time this season New England has opened as a double-digit favorite. But this spread is particularly notable, for two reasons.

First, it's the biggest point spread of any NFL game played on a Thursday, according to Pro Football Reference. Ironically, the previous record also was held by the Giants, who were 15-point underdogs to the Dallas Cowboys in 1992.

As only one team favored by 14 points or more in a Thursday game failed to cover. Patriots-Giants match up features a hilarious prop bet
Here's part two: The Giants will be the biggest underdogs in franchise history Thursday night against the Patriots, as they've never been more than 15.5-point underdogs, per Pro Football Reference.

New York has covered its massive spread six times in 10 instances when it's a 13-point underdog or greater.

Bill Belichick and the Patriots will tell you they're not taking the Giants lightly. But considering New England has won four of its five games by at least 16 points, there's a good chance we see another blowout at Gillette Stadium."

Okay, with the above article read and digested, please read.  First of all, I HAD NO MONEY on the game.  I gave up wagering on college football back around 2001 and Pro football in the mid to later 2000's.  I track a few games of the teams I like, Jets, Eagles and Vikings as well as those I despise, such as the Patriots and Packers and a few others. 

But my friend, who has a family member that helps me tremendously at my restaurant, was all hyped and convinced his payday was the Giants and the Patriots game the other night.  In fact, I do not like The Giants because The Jets are my New York team and I absolutely despise The Patriots.  Although, year after year after year, the Patriots pull off amazing stuff!  Beyond comprehension most times.  I was very tempted to put a large sum on The Patriots, but to me that would have been like wagering on the 10th or the 11th repeating hand of a Banker streak at Baccarat and the Player returns a natural 8 to the Bankers 7 or the Players returned a natural 9 to the Bankers natural 8.  Anyway, the guy mentioned comes in my restaurant all hyped and telling me and another he put down $20K on The Giants and his reasoning. 

Some of that had to do with the historic research and rationalization mostly about the part:  "New York has covered its massive spread six times in 10 instances when it's a 13-point underdog or greater."

But you know what and what sticks in mind with me.  1)  "The New England Patriots will face stiff competition one day. But that day is not Thursday".  And 2) New York was on the road and simply facing the absolute best defense in the NFL.  Done deal.  Finished.

But the guy is saying for hours in my place, "New York has always covered and New York is really a decent team".  On and on and on and on.  Say it all and convince yourself, go right ahead, just like at the Baccarat table.  Convince yourself this or that has to happen or should or has to come out because of such and such.  Happens every single night, every night!  Just like when there is a 9 or 13 or 15 hand Player Streak.  How most all people will verbally say, cannot continue, Banker has to come back or Banker will start equaling out, etc., etc., etc. 

GIANTS 2-4 and PATRIOTS 6-0.  With the points, some betters even got up to 18 points.  All the stats and all the history means nothing, ZIP! 

You know, I am remembering back to January 2018, when the Vikings went to the Eagles for the Do or Die game.  Vikings win, go to Superbowl, Eagles win, go to Superbowl.  And do not forget, Minnesota built the brand new arena and the Superbowl was scheduled to be there.  Home team, Home stadium at the Superbowl.  WOW, Boy O Boy, what a field day for the Vegas Books and other Books regarding that.  There was no way and virtually impossible for a team like the Vikings to beat the Eagles in a Do or Die Game on the road.  And then the Books make out the Vikings to be the favorite.  LOL, ROMAFL, huge!  All the talk and all the reasoning's how the Vikings will win.  Same of course with the Eagles.  I love both teams, but in my heart,  I knew the Vikings on the road to Phila would never ever survive.  Never.  The Vikings are submissive and girls on the road, especially in an outdoor stadium and in the Winter.  Period. 

You know that game was even more of a hype than the Pats and the Giants the other night.  But the Las Vegas books manipulated the public betting people at large and they cleaned house with all capitals letters, CLEANED HOUSE.  The books pulled a shrewd one, O Boy O Boy did they.  Here is a quote,"The Philadelphia Eagles' success as rare home playoff underdogs last weekend hardly impressed Las Vegas bookmakers, who promptly made the Minnesota Vikings 3-point favorites over the Eagles in the NFC championship game Sunday in Philadelphia."   And the wind up was, "The Eagles then went on to win the Super Bowl in Minnesota's brand new stadium and they had to deal with partying Eagles fans all over again".

Yes we certainly are!

On the way into the Baccarat Room the person I was with wanted to try a few hundred in the machine with roulette.  As in Bac, when it comes it is there for a short period of time.  I took a quick snap shot of the previous 15 spin results or so on the left side of the screen. 

5 Blacks
1 Red
4 Blacks
1 Red
5 Blacks
1 Red

Then it did the same thing.  Another 5 Blacks came out.  My buddy was betting $50.00 to $200.00 on Black every time.  When the Red came out he switched to Red.  I told him, stick on Black, ride it.  He stuck on Red each time and lost like 2 more wagering for the Red each time, then switches back to Black.  He could have won 15 with the 1 Red loss each time.  But he won like 5 instead!!!  That was it!

Man O Man!  He was completely convinced that it had to switch back to Red as there were too many Blacks with only single Reds appearing.

Okay, whatever.  Same at the Bac table, too many players or bankers so lets all wager for the cut, etc.! 

Again I say, wager with whatever it is doing, STOP trying to change the pattern or trend.  When it is there, it is there, PERIOD!

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Love all you people!

No matter if you post, if you don't post, if you if you stalk, if you watch, if you read out of curiosity, whatever you do, I love you guys deep down inside!

You guys are the best no matter what!

H-Money put $17,000.00 plus aside for his household expenses and replenished his temporary bankroll of $3,500.00.  I finally convinced him to maintain the bank roll and let the Money Mangment Method govern his play time;......................Possibly..............................maybe.............................quite possibly and hopefully, H-Money is on the way back to good gambling at the baccarat table.

He came by this morning for breakfast and his promise (the above) what and how he is going to gamble from now on.  He is going to subscribe and hold steadfast to the 1/3rd-1/3rd-1/3rd Money Management Method whereby his larger wins will replenish his bank roll amount as well as his buy-in and the 2/3'rds will continuously go into his pocket and off the table and completely removed from the gambling session. 

I also really do believe I finally convinced H-Money to ignore and do not let his previous sessions govern how he wagers or what he selects in the way of beliefs or methods to wager.  I think he finally realizes that!  Amen!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1WVhbgoe854

So, we had the 3 shoes with Players side dom all night.  We all went to cash out and we went back to the bac room where the floor people had breakfast catered in and set up the plates and self serve.  We had a 2 hour drive home so we grabbed some food and some sacks to go while they called for some coffee and juice we all wanted.  We started another shoe, jokingly saying, lets go heavy and press on the Players side only.  We each agreed to take $1,000.00 of our win money and do a 1-3-2-6 or a 1-4-8 and pull down.  We each did a variance of those positive progressions.  Here is one snap shot pic of the board when we quit the second time around and really left the casino.  The rest of the table with the exception of one female, all went Banker heavy and got wiped out quickly. 

I must say, the consistency of Player heavy 3 back to back shoes and even starting the 4th, is a bit unusual.  But as I have said, play Bac long enough for so many years, you will see everything happen.

The Players came on like gangbusters once again with 9 back to back hands in the three mini streaks, with all naturals out of the 12 opening Player side hands.  We rode it and here is a snap shot at when made our second break for it once again. 

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Last shoe of the evening.

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The shoe wrapped up as follows.  You are looking at Hand 70.  There were 2 more Player wins for 10 in a row and then cut to Banker with a Fortune 7 presentment.  Then 6 more Players in a row came out. 

Players total wins at 52.
Ties at 2
Bankers total wins at 25

Second Shoe.

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Player Dom again!

Starts out with a Player wins with a 1 to 0 hand.
The 2 back to back ties with both natural 9 ties.  Both of them.
The next three player side wins are as follows:  1 to 0.  2 to 1 and a 3 to 2.

The 4 Naturals back to back were as follows.  2 Natural 9s for the Players over Natural 8s for the Bankers.  Then 2 Natural 8s for the Players over Bankers 7s.

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The shoe went to Hand 79.  You are looking at Hand 68 in this picture.  I could not get another one, too much action and excitement.  Forgot to snap another pic.  But that last little streak of Player turned into a solid run of 13 Players followed by a tie and then 3 Banker hands and finished.  Players 47, Ties 10 and Bankers 22.

Here are 3 shoes from around midnight and into the early AM hours.  Shoes were full table and long, very long, at least 2.5 hours each.  Myself, H-Money and another friend Laping, playing together.  We started some overpowering the shoe tactics, but was not quite where I wanted the action to be.  But so many faces in awe, again--the majority of the people play for CUT these days as well as what they desire, not what the shoe is producing.  But some PLAYER-SIDE heavy action. 

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3 F-7s came out.  Love that first one in Hands 1-10!  LOVE IT!  Players dominant at the end, huge!  Most every hand was a Bad Beat Bonus win or where the Players side drew a 3rd card for the stop and win or additional points up to 8 or 9.  So obvious, had to jump on it!  I have been talking about this and bringing out, follow it, it works just fine!

Quote from: Mr J on March 07, 2014, 02:33:53 PM
Listen, some (not all) of you guys are just not catching on. When Xander, Snowman, Caleb, Farnsworth, Keyser are ON SCENE, there is not much point of posting a method (as you see).

The "you can't win" & "you'll never win playing methods" will be STUFFED down your throat until you are foaming at the mouth. You're better off keeping your IDEA to yourself (imo). Besides, you really don't need approval from others, correct? That's one thing that took me years to figure out.

Oh, Bob Smith doesn't like my method? Well, f**k Bob Smith and the horse he road in on. (lol)

Xander, Snowman, Caleb, Farnsworth, Keyser has NO PROOF he does well with his AP (cough) tactics, so, why listen? Fair question, again, its only my opinion. The other ODD thing.....some of the members that AGREE with him.......DRUM ROLL........ play methods!    Pure comedy.

Ken

This post says so much in the way of intelligence and rationalizing out it's not even laughable Ken is so spot-on about attitude and aura basic 101 forumolgy!

You are what you are, the same as myself. 

The only mistake I made on any board was the 'Saturday Night Live' type of skits converted into the written words/posts I had made regarding systems, other members and such.

The rest of just about everything I ever posted, deleted and re-posted, has been my experiences, downright real, justified if needed and absolutely the truth or what I believed to the last word.  Not, words of hate and spite and words that attempted to demolish or put someone's light's out, so to say. But others that are drama driven and pretty much full-time internet types, certainly roll with it all and use what I have said or said in pun to boast themselves and pass themselves off as multi interracial and savior to any and all people.   

Problem is, so many are exclusively inhibited and as well--introverted on here.  They picture just about everyone else the same or just below themselves with little to no imagination, experience or optimism.  All of course, IMO.

I thought for a while--we were about on the same level, play--experience wise that is.  But you did (again IMO) go a tad bit too far with the medical, personal and professional valuations regarding myself.  Why?  I can't really say.  Maybe I was just there. 

I seriously have been through some pretty tumultuous times and experiences in my life from being affiliated through marriage with NYC Asian Triads to all out criminal activity regarding adult businesses and financially related activity and businesses, to non-gambling and non-criminal professions that were just nasty-dirty and extremely difficult years with the history of them, etc. 

I generally (unless pun is intended or some other form of humor) tell the truth with explicit and redundant tenacity on here.  Yes, I have been on other boards and self-banned myself or been banned for generally not caring one bit about what they stand for and got in some two bit 'back alley' fight with some internet troll.  Like I did on the other forum I last told the Admin to ban myself.  I just got that NYC 'don't give a F*** attitude when I take a stand for something', etc., etc. 

As far as accepting or not accepting an apology of the type you made, I honestly see no reason to have even brought up what you did.  You have nothing to prove here the same as myself, although I have tried at times, why---I could not answer except to say, I write the honest and unforgiving truth. 

There is a way to gamble and there certainly are many ways not to gamble.  The same as writing on the board here or anywhere else.

Just because someone gambles differently than myself does not make him or her inferior or superior to myself or anyone else for that matter.  Likewise, the way others write and what they write about or belief in, the exact same would have to hold true as well.  If we were all the same, this world would really suck a heck of a lot more than it already does.  And, you and your few buddies that ganged up together, certainly write and dictate one-sided non verifiable experiences and dialog a heck of a lot more than I have or ever have done.  So be it.  Truth like that is hard to defend and show, it just lies there and is interpreted by those that read. 

The bottom line?  And many will not like it, some will take it and twist and turn it and use it against me, others might realize something from it and begin their own journey into finally realizing how to win and stop.  But here it is.  You cannot race bicycles without knowing how to ride one in the first place.  You cannot swim in competition without knowing how to swim in the first place.  You cannot race a car without knowing how to drive one in the first place.  You cannot be a novelist without having basic skills in writing, reading, organizational and researching skills in the first place.  You cannot be successful in gambling without having experienced losses and wins in the first place.

It is the realization and the comprehension of the proper skills and protocols that will allow you to take advantage of what casino games present.  Meaning, how to actually recognize risk, manage it and at the same time, the ability to cash out and be comfortable at your levels and plateaus that govern your casino time and play. 

Wishing you the best as I always have.  Although at your own admission your previous apology to myself was a lie and a piece of made up drama, mine is not.

Maybe one day you will realize...Alrelax/Glen.

A tour up to the Boardwalk starting on the south side.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cp-MXQF3MYE

Atlantic City.  I remember it well.  A good basic story.  Enjoy!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a0EQk5Inz2c

Classic!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8fdPX1sjgG0