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AsymBacGuy / Re: Why bac could be beatable ...
Last post by AsymBacGuy - Today at 03:06:08 AMBasically we should be more interested about assessing what's the actual shoes production we're playing at instead of thinking that a general plan will get the best of it no matter what.
Casinos are not there to give the players easy solutions about beating baccarat and claiming that natural variance will make things unpredictable for long is a complete bighorn.sh.it statement.
Therefore most shoes are playable as long as the asymmetrical factor seems to be predominant or at least when the symmetrical counterpart is well restrained in its appearance.
When clustered symmetrical patterns tend to come out at the initial/intermediate portions of the shoe, we could safely assume that that shoe isn't playable.
Of course the cut card could provide valuable asymmetrical hands at the same fragments of any shoe dealt, so conceding the room for the unwanted S counterpart in the final portions of it.
Yet huge clumps of Symmetrical patterns are more likely to come out when..."they managed to really come out" as just one hand or few hands might transform a long sequence of As patterns into a back-to-back symmetrical patterns succession.
That means that symmetrical patterns surpassing the 1 (isolated) or 2 (1-step cluster) levels are more probable to provide more clustered sym patterns as the force slightly shifting patterns toward the asymmetry will be "consumed" by coincidental factors not belonging to a more likely distribution.
Summary
If most hands would be arranged by a kind of long symmetrical patterns distribution, the game wouldn't exist as the vast majority of players will rely upon a "human ability" of detecting outcomes by too much simple standards.
Surely this thing happens but not by degrees capable to overcome all other patterns formation and for sure not capable to erase/invert the HE.
Besides the obvious math edge and the bad attitude of many players, casinos rely upon a more probable "chaotic" world and the key word of such world is "asymmetry".
Thus they do not fear symmetry as they know it won't stand for long, collecting profits after the many more probable "undetectable" asym patterns naturally coming out along the way.
Baccarat card distributions are more likely to provide asymmetrical patterns of some lenght or getting symmetrical patterns to stop at more probable points.
This feature is strictly related to the actual shuffling procedure: RTM softwares instructing the machine to deal unrandom sequences will make less reliable the "average shoe" concept.
Yet RTM productions are so polarized that most of the times a searched outcome might be silent for longer frames than expected but then a more natural flow will be more entitled to show up than average. An additional reason to bet very few hands.
Assume that most part of symmetrical patterns are coming out coincidentally and not for natural reasons.
I mean that itlr random productions will more likely distribute by low levels of symmetry and moderate/high levels of asymmetry.
Unrandom productions could easily provide a larger than naturally expected back to back consecutive symmetrical patterns, but they someway must stop so conceding more room to asym situations.
Clustered symmetrical patterns of 3 or more most of the times are the by product of hands that had weirdly produced an unexpected symmetrical pattern whereas a more natural asymmetrical pattern was due.
The conclusion is that whenever a shoe shows symmetrical patterns longer than 2 or whenever the A/S patterns ratio is too much shifted toward the right S side, let the recreational players and tourists to make their betting. You are in a 100% better shape to stand up and drink something waiting for the next shoe.
See you in a couple of days.
as.
Casinos are not there to give the players easy solutions about beating baccarat and claiming that natural variance will make things unpredictable for long is a complete bighorn.sh.it statement.
Therefore most shoes are playable as long as the asymmetrical factor seems to be predominant or at least when the symmetrical counterpart is well restrained in its appearance.
When clustered symmetrical patterns tend to come out at the initial/intermediate portions of the shoe, we could safely assume that that shoe isn't playable.
Of course the cut card could provide valuable asymmetrical hands at the same fragments of any shoe dealt, so conceding the room for the unwanted S counterpart in the final portions of it.
Yet huge clumps of Symmetrical patterns are more likely to come out when..."they managed to really come out" as just one hand or few hands might transform a long sequence of As patterns into a back-to-back symmetrical patterns succession.
That means that symmetrical patterns surpassing the 1 (isolated) or 2 (1-step cluster) levels are more probable to provide more clustered sym patterns as the force slightly shifting patterns toward the asymmetry will be "consumed" by coincidental factors not belonging to a more likely distribution.
Summary
If most hands would be arranged by a kind of long symmetrical patterns distribution, the game wouldn't exist as the vast majority of players will rely upon a "human ability" of detecting outcomes by too much simple standards.
Surely this thing happens but not by degrees capable to overcome all other patterns formation and for sure not capable to erase/invert the HE.
Besides the obvious math edge and the bad attitude of many players, casinos rely upon a more probable "chaotic" world and the key word of such world is "asymmetry".
Thus they do not fear symmetry as they know it won't stand for long, collecting profits after the many more probable "undetectable" asym patterns naturally coming out along the way.
Baccarat card distributions are more likely to provide asymmetrical patterns of some lenght or getting symmetrical patterns to stop at more probable points.
This feature is strictly related to the actual shuffling procedure: RTM softwares instructing the machine to deal unrandom sequences will make less reliable the "average shoe" concept.
Yet RTM productions are so polarized that most of the times a searched outcome might be silent for longer frames than expected but then a more natural flow will be more entitled to show up than average. An additional reason to bet very few hands.
Assume that most part of symmetrical patterns are coming out coincidentally and not for natural reasons.
I mean that itlr random productions will more likely distribute by low levels of symmetry and moderate/high levels of asymmetry.
Unrandom productions could easily provide a larger than naturally expected back to back consecutive symmetrical patterns, but they someway must stop so conceding more room to asym situations.
Clustered symmetrical patterns of 3 or more most of the times are the by product of hands that had weirdly produced an unexpected symmetrical pattern whereas a more natural asymmetrical pattern was due.
The conclusion is that whenever a shoe shows symmetrical patterns longer than 2 or whenever the A/S patterns ratio is too much shifted toward the right S side, let the recreational players and tourists to make their betting. You are in a 100% better shape to stand up and drink something waiting for the next shoe.
See you in a couple of days.
as.
#2
Dozen/Column / Re: Anyone still use this foru...
Last post by ADulay - Today at 12:02:01 AMOK, finally took another look at the Molley thing.
Not impressed.
It needs to hit a single dozen to produce a profit while putting up an inordinate amount of money that isn't being put to work.
Two of the columns/dozen appear to produce zero or a total loss.
The wager methods do take some time to learn to be quick and smooth but overall there are better "dozen" type plays out there.
Just my two cents worth of an opinion on this one but thanks for bringing it up.
AD
Not impressed.
It needs to hit a single dozen to produce a profit while putting up an inordinate amount of money that isn't being put to work.
Two of the columns/dozen appear to produce zero or a total loss.
The wager methods do take some time to learn to be quick and smooth but overall there are better "dozen" type plays out there.
Just my two cents worth of an opinion on this one but thanks for bringing it up.
AD
#3
AsymBacGuy / Re: Why bac could be beatable ...
Last post by AsymBacGuy - Yesterday at 09:04:47 PMAt gambling and in games in general asymmetrical results tend to be the norm and for that matter even the real life presents infinite situations where AS sequences predominate.
Itlr events are expected to equalize, providing the same conditions and parameters to run by the same force.
For example a poker tournament is the epitome of asymmetry.
No matter how long is conceived a tournament (the longest are some WSOP events), cards cannot be dealt by symmetrical standards thus some players will be kissed by more lucky hands than others (especially when certain inevitable key spots arise), otherwise the best poker players would win every tournament.
No doubt that itlr best skilled players will account more wins than the rest of the field and that's another important (decisive) form of asymmetry.
For sure cards dealt at a given poker tournament are an actual form of asymmetry and the different skills among participants are a potential form of asymmetry.
Differently than poker tournaments and just regarding the first factor, baccarat is a huge democratic game as cards are dealt without favoring some players, so in some sense everybody's action is the cause of his/her own destiny.
Obviously the poker comparison was made to emphasize the second factor, uncontested at poker (itlr more skilled players will overcome less skilled players by a 100% level) but more debatable at baccarat.
So the question is: does it exist a "skill factor" at baccarat capable to get the best of the innumerable sequences every player must face along the course of his/her action?
If we were to take a possible positive answer, a good start would be to take for grant that most successions are the by product of a slight asymmetrical force affecting the results, the same way poker tourneys are expected to deal asymmetrical situations.
And when they are not and differently than poker tournaments where we have to put blinds and antes and passively accepting the asymmetry, at bac we can choose to stay away from the betting without losing a dime.
More later
as.
Itlr events are expected to equalize, providing the same conditions and parameters to run by the same force.
For example a poker tournament is the epitome of asymmetry.
No matter how long is conceived a tournament (the longest are some WSOP events), cards cannot be dealt by symmetrical standards thus some players will be kissed by more lucky hands than others (especially when certain inevitable key spots arise), otherwise the best poker players would win every tournament.
No doubt that itlr best skilled players will account more wins than the rest of the field and that's another important (decisive) form of asymmetry.
For sure cards dealt at a given poker tournament are an actual form of asymmetry and the different skills among participants are a potential form of asymmetry.
Differently than poker tournaments and just regarding the first factor, baccarat is a huge democratic game as cards are dealt without favoring some players, so in some sense everybody's action is the cause of his/her own destiny.
Obviously the poker comparison was made to emphasize the second factor, uncontested at poker (itlr more skilled players will overcome less skilled players by a 100% level) but more debatable at baccarat.
So the question is: does it exist a "skill factor" at baccarat capable to get the best of the innumerable sequences every player must face along the course of his/her action?
If we were to take a possible positive answer, a good start would be to take for grant that most successions are the by product of a slight asymmetrical force affecting the results, the same way poker tourneys are expected to deal asymmetrical situations.
And when they are not and differently than poker tournaments where we have to put blinds and antes and passively accepting the asymmetry, at bac we can choose to stay away from the betting without losing a dime.
More later
as.
#4
Off-topic / Re: Photo Ops
Last post by alrelax - June 25, 2025, 02:16:18 PMOne of the most fantastic and complete rainbows I have ever seen!
#5
Vegas and Atlantic City / Re: Change for Vegas Because o...
Last post by ADulay - June 24, 2025, 02:59:14 PMWow.
Could they put any more advertising on that web page?
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Could they put any more advertising on that web page?

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#6
AsymBacGuy / Re: Why bac could be beatable ...
Last post by AsymBacGuy - June 23, 2025, 08:24:22 AMIt's very important to understand that bills are payed by hard work and baccarat makes no exception.
So we better approach the game by realizing that we have to fight with the aim of not losing instead of winning.
It's so hard to win at baccarat itlr that u tube abounds of "new geniuses in town" swearing that for just $50 or $500 you'll break down the house, not mentioning those i.d.iots wagering huge sums and telling us that they are ahead after months of play.
as.
So we better approach the game by realizing that we have to fight with the aim of not losing instead of winning.
It's so hard to win at baccarat itlr that u tube abounds of "new geniuses in town" swearing that for just $50 or $500 you'll break down the house, not mentioning those i.d.iots wagering huge sums and telling us that they are ahead after months of play.
as.
#7
AsymBacGuy / Re: Why bac could be beatable ...
Last post by AsymBacGuy - June 23, 2025, 02:50:26 AMBaccarat is a game of "ranges" that we may consider through infinite different random walks derived from the original BP sequence.
Since all bets are conceived as EV-, we might study how long and how's likely that a given searched situation will happen or not by a decent level of probability capable to erase or possibly inverting at our favor the HE.
So for the purpose of what we're talking about, we'll focus about the probability to encounter S or A patterns considered by their average distribution in terms of isolated or clustered patterns.
Our task is to demonstrate that S and A patterns will show up by a more "detectable" fashion than a pure random (or unrandom) chaotic world would dictate.
Since there's no a long term advantage to linearly betting S or A, we have either to "choose" the situations where A is more likely to show up again or to spot the events where S is more likely to make room to A patterns as in both cases A is the norm and S a kind of "incidental" event.
It's 100% impossible to win by betting all hands or most hands at any shoe dealt, unless you'll utilize a huge betting variation between EV- hands and the rare EV+ spots coming out along the way.
Math experts teach us that every bet is EV- no matter what, a total bighorn.sh.it.
For sure and while wagering a lot of hands, a possible EV+ situation will be diluted by the enormous natural impact of EV- situations.
It's not a coincidence that casinos will lure you into betting a lot of hands, thus enlarging at most their math edge and at the same time giving you the most confused picture of what is going on.
The perfect countermeasure to adopt is to join tables where the minimum wager is at least 10 times lower than your standard bet or, even better, to bet whenever you want.
Fortunately casinos are more worried about a black jack player suddendly raising his $20 bet than when a baccarat player wagering zero or the $1000 minimum bet all of a sudden will place a $10.000 or huger bet and then quitting after winning it.
Reasonably casinos think that a bj player could try to exploit a math edge whereas the bac player cannot spot situations to be more right than wrong by definition.
OoOoO
Suppose we're setting up a couple of players wagering a kind of sky's the limit approach, one wagering toward A-A (clustered A of any lenght) and the other one wagering toward A after a single S.
Say that to enlarge a possible probability of success, we'll start to bet after a kind of negative deviation happening.
Since we're not i.diots, when a RNG production (unramdom) is in order we'll wait negative deviations (S events) to be clustered one time (S-S). That makes our S-S-A and A-A betting spots to get unmissable profitable opportunities.
In the other scenarios (so when we'd think the production will be random), S-A will slightly but constantly overwhelm the S-S counterpart, so now the A clusters make a minor impact over the overall predictability.
as.
Since all bets are conceived as EV-, we might study how long and how's likely that a given searched situation will happen or not by a decent level of probability capable to erase or possibly inverting at our favor the HE.
So for the purpose of what we're talking about, we'll focus about the probability to encounter S or A patterns considered by their average distribution in terms of isolated or clustered patterns.
Our task is to demonstrate that S and A patterns will show up by a more "detectable" fashion than a pure random (or unrandom) chaotic world would dictate.
Since there's no a long term advantage to linearly betting S or A, we have either to "choose" the situations where A is more likely to show up again or to spot the events where S is more likely to make room to A patterns as in both cases A is the norm and S a kind of "incidental" event.
It's 100% impossible to win by betting all hands or most hands at any shoe dealt, unless you'll utilize a huge betting variation between EV- hands and the rare EV+ spots coming out along the way.
Math experts teach us that every bet is EV- no matter what, a total bighorn.sh.it.
For sure and while wagering a lot of hands, a possible EV+ situation will be diluted by the enormous natural impact of EV- situations.
It's not a coincidence that casinos will lure you into betting a lot of hands, thus enlarging at most their math edge and at the same time giving you the most confused picture of what is going on.
The perfect countermeasure to adopt is to join tables where the minimum wager is at least 10 times lower than your standard bet or, even better, to bet whenever you want.
Fortunately casinos are more worried about a black jack player suddendly raising his $20 bet than when a baccarat player wagering zero or the $1000 minimum bet all of a sudden will place a $10.000 or huger bet and then quitting after winning it.
Reasonably casinos think that a bj player could try to exploit a math edge whereas the bac player cannot spot situations to be more right than wrong by definition.
OoOoO
Suppose we're setting up a couple of players wagering a kind of sky's the limit approach, one wagering toward A-A (clustered A of any lenght) and the other one wagering toward A after a single S.
Say that to enlarge a possible probability of success, we'll start to bet after a kind of negative deviation happening.
Since we're not i.diots, when a RNG production (unramdom) is in order we'll wait negative deviations (S events) to be clustered one time (S-S). That makes our S-S-A and A-A betting spots to get unmissable profitable opportunities.
In the other scenarios (so when we'd think the production will be random), S-A will slightly but constantly overwhelm the S-S counterpart, so now the A clusters make a minor impact over the overall predictability.
as.
#8
AsymBacGuy / Re: Why bac could be beatable ...
Last post by AsymBacGuy - June 22, 2025, 09:06:53 PMRegarding the symmetry/asymmetry how many first losing attempts come out per every shoe played?
More precisely how many patterns will deny a slight more probable asymmetry at the very first step considered along any shoe dealt?
A better question would be how much "gapped" are those first step asymmetrical patterns on average, a thing that could help us to define better the ranges of intervention.
Catching LONG consecutive first winning spots are more a matter of luck (intended as short term positive variance, of course) than a matter of skills, everything else belongs to a kind of an infinite educated guess about how an average shoe is more likely to show up.
That's especially true when RNG productions will arrange cards by somewhat denying a kind of "clumping" factor, a factor that generally speaking will either make more likely a line or the opposite line to be predominant or to be silent for interesting portions of the shoe.
A distribution typical of a true random movement, and we know beyond any doubt that RNG productions are not random distributions.
More later
as.
More precisely how many patterns will deny a slight more probable asymmetry at the very first step considered along any shoe dealt?
A better question would be how much "gapped" are those first step asymmetrical patterns on average, a thing that could help us to define better the ranges of intervention.
Catching LONG consecutive first winning spots are more a matter of luck (intended as short term positive variance, of course) than a matter of skills, everything else belongs to a kind of an infinite educated guess about how an average shoe is more likely to show up.
That's especially true when RNG productions will arrange cards by somewhat denying a kind of "clumping" factor, a factor that generally speaking will either make more likely a line or the opposite line to be predominant or to be silent for interesting portions of the shoe.
A distribution typical of a true random movement, and we know beyond any doubt that RNG productions are not random distributions.
More later
as.
#9
Alrelax's Blog / Re: Chicago Trip Today
Last post by alrelax - June 22, 2025, 01:10:16 PMI mentioned a Players IAR run of 9. From HMoney's notes on this, here is the run of 9. Although I do not (DO NOT) believe in previously drawn cards influencing the next hand, I do believe in, 'go with what is being presented'.
P 4/J flop 4. B A/K flop Q
P 10/5 flop 4. B 10/7
P 8/6 flop 5. B 10/2 flop 9
P 3/5 B A/A
P 2/2 flop 5. B 6/8 flop 10
P 9/A flop 5. B 8/4 flop 2
P 3/10 flop 5. B 4/2
P 4/9 flop Q. B 7/3 flop 2
Stop with the likes and dislikes in playing the game of bac. When you can't beat something, you join it. Lots of people where I play are not favorites of wagering the Players side. But when they are getting cards to either kill the Bankers side or just squeeze by, $750 or $1,000 or greater on the Players and just keep pulling down the winnings until it cuts, is nice!
P 4/J flop 4. B A/K flop Q
P 10/5 flop 4. B 10/7
P 8/6 flop 5. B 10/2 flop 9
P 3/5 B A/A
P 2/2 flop 5. B 6/8 flop 10
P 9/A flop 5. B 8/4 flop 2
P 3/10 flop 5. B 4/2
P 4/9 flop Q. B 7/3 flop 2
Stop with the likes and dislikes in playing the game of bac. When you can't beat something, you join it. Lots of people where I play are not favorites of wagering the Players side. But when they are getting cards to either kill the Bankers side or just squeeze by, $750 or $1,000 or greater on the Players and just keep pulling down the winnings until it cuts, is nice!
#10
Vegas and Atlantic City / Re: Change for Vegas Because o...
Last post by alrelax - June 21, 2025, 10:59:52 AMThey have to (HAVE TO) do something and it is starting.
https://www.reviewjournal.com/business/casinos-gaming/strip-casino-ditching-resort-fees-this-summer-3387482/
https://www.reviewjournal.com/business/casinos-gaming/strip-casino-ditching-resort-fees-this-summer-3387482/