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#81
Creativity Adventures / Re: Experimenting 3 states Bia...
Last post by albertojonas - October 03, 2024, 12:38:32 AMFrom same 100 spin set Timestamp: 2024-10-02 23:38:10 UTC RANDOM.ORG
2nd playing model is to ride each string until a W or LLL, then wait for the 3 states to show up before restarting.
One can play both sides or with an alter-ego maybe try only one side of the distribution isolated.
Player 1
O/E String
21112111113 11132 2123 2113 11211113 1213 1123 312 1312 111111213 11
LWWLWWWWWWLL WWLLL LLWLL LWLL WLWWWWLL LWLL WLLL LLL LWLL WWWWWLWLL W
WL: LW W LLW LW W LW W LLL LW W W
BET: 1212343434545678989
NET: -1 2 1 -2 -3 4 -3 4 3 -4 5 4 -5 -6 -7 -8 9 8 9
BANK: -1 1 2 0 -3 1 -2 2 5 1 6 10 5 -1 -8 -16 -7 1 10 = +10
Player 2
Odd String
1111111213 1311132 3131111112 31
W LW LLW W
Player 3
Even String
212113 132 221121111123 2321 1111
LLW LLL W W W
2nd playing model is to ride each string until a W or LLL, then wait for the 3 states to show up before restarting.
One can play both sides or with an alter-ego maybe try only one side of the distribution isolated.
Player 1
O/E String
21112111113 11132 2123 2113 11211113 1213 1123 312 1312 111111213 11
LWWLWWWWWWLL WWLLL LLWLL LWLL WLWWWWLL LWLL WLLL LLL LWLL WWWWWLWLL W
WL: LW W LLW LW W LW W LLL LW W W
BET: 1212343434545678989
NET: -1 2 1 -2 -3 4 -3 4 3 -4 5 4 -5 -6 -7 -8 9 8 9
BANK: -1 1 2 0 -3 1 -2 2 5 1 6 10 5 -1 -8 -16 -7 1 10 = +10
Player 2
Odd String
1111111213 1311132 3131111112 31
W LW LLW W
Player 3
Even String
212113 132 221121111123 2321 1111
LLW LLL W W W
#82
Creativity Adventures / Re: Experimenting 3 states Bia...
Last post by albertojonas - October 02, 2024, 11:58:41 PMHere it is. One model of playing to achieve 10 units.
#83
AsymBacGuy / Re: Why bac could be beatable ...
Last post by AsymBacGuy - October 02, 2024, 03:03:23 AMLet's consider two extremes almost never happening, it's the starting point to go down in the patterns evaluation.
a) A shoe not producing any doubles;
b) A shoe not producing any 3/3+ streaks.
a) No doubles in a shoe means that we'll never ever cross more than one singled + or - sign in a row.
That is we'll only encounter +-- or -++ situations.
b) No 3/3+ streaks happening in a shoe means that the - sign will come out as isolated all of the time.
In fact we need at least a 3 streak to get a - - succession.
At the same time it's easy to infer that at those distributions the overalternating +/- movement is increased in probability as soon or later two or more doubles will come out in a row.
No surprises!
Those shoes are the heaven for any sensible bac player for obvious reasons: what seems to be absent should be considered as non existent, yet the optimal play would be to bet after a single + or - sign in the a) scenario (+- or -+) and to bet after the - apparition in the b) situation.
At both those situations our probability to win is 100%.
Therefore and as long as no doubles or no 3/3+ streaks happen and in the betting spots examined, our probability to win is 100%.
Unfortunately (lol) at the remaining shoe distributions, doubles and 3/3+ streaks will mix and show up whimsically by different paces and by different quantities.
It's now that we have to make an "educated guess" of what are the more likely ranges of doubles/superior streaks in terms of distribution (not quantity) per any shoe dealt.
For example there are no many overalternating situations (consecutive doubles) happening along any shoe dealt, the same about clustered + signs formed by several long chopping lines or consistent - sign clusters (long streaks).
On the same line, the + or - shape will dictate our future action.
More informations we have at our disposal at a given point of the shoe, better will be our precision in approximating what should show up next.
Anyway when strong clusters seem to come out conseutively we think that there are only two options to follow: a)waiting or b)betting until the cluster ends up.
In the latter option we need just one more hand to win, then we might (almost) freerolling or collecting the profit.
Yet only first class players are capable to get a sort of long term advantage by playing "extremes".
Next time I'll present you some real shoes played. Step by step.
as.
a) A shoe not producing any doubles;
b) A shoe not producing any 3/3+ streaks.
a) No doubles in a shoe means that we'll never ever cross more than one singled + or - sign in a row.
That is we'll only encounter +-- or -++ situations.
b) No 3/3+ streaks happening in a shoe means that the - sign will come out as isolated all of the time.
In fact we need at least a 3 streak to get a - - succession.
At the same time it's easy to infer that at those distributions the overalternating +/- movement is increased in probability as soon or later two or more doubles will come out in a row.
No surprises!
Those shoes are the heaven for any sensible bac player for obvious reasons: what seems to be absent should be considered as non existent, yet the optimal play would be to bet after a single + or - sign in the a) scenario (+- or -+) and to bet after the - apparition in the b) situation.
At both those situations our probability to win is 100%.
Therefore and as long as no doubles or no 3/3+ streaks happen and in the betting spots examined, our probability to win is 100%.
Unfortunately (lol) at the remaining shoe distributions, doubles and 3/3+ streaks will mix and show up whimsically by different paces and by different quantities.
It's now that we have to make an "educated guess" of what are the more likely ranges of doubles/superior streaks in terms of distribution (not quantity) per any shoe dealt.
For example there are no many overalternating situations (consecutive doubles) happening along any shoe dealt, the same about clustered + signs formed by several long chopping lines or consistent - sign clusters (long streaks).
On the same line, the + or - shape will dictate our future action.
More informations we have at our disposal at a given point of the shoe, better will be our precision in approximating what should show up next.
Anyway when strong clusters seem to come out conseutively we think that there are only two options to follow: a)waiting or b)betting until the cluster ends up.
In the latter option we need just one more hand to win, then we might (almost) freerolling or collecting the profit.
Yet only first class players are capable to get a sort of long term advantage by playing "extremes".
Next time I'll present you some real shoes played. Step by step.
as.
#84
Creativity Adventures / Re: Experimenting 3 states Bia...
Last post by albertojonas - October 02, 2024, 01:03:35 AMQuote9/27 ends up in WW situation
6/27 end up in WL situation
so 15/27 end up starting with a Win
7/27 en up in LW situation, break even.
There is the 313 exception resulting in a LLW, all the other 4 end up in three Losses.
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I wonder about what kind of progression would be more suitable to this expectations.
SO THIS NEEDS CORRECTION TOO. I AM SO SORRY.
15/27 result in direct Win
4/27 result in LW situation
4/27 end up in LLW situation
4/27 result in LLL
Would there be any advantage play only when first event is a series, being a double, or being a series of 3 or larger???
I believe not. Most certainly because there are as many singles as series.
What kind of progression would fit this bet selection?
To take advantage of direct wins and LW
and also do not get in the hole with llw or lll
...
For now, i came up with this Modified D'Allembert taught to me by GLC
llw raise 1 unit
lll raise 4 units
* lw counts as a win as you win 1 unit no matter what step of the progression
1 win lower 1 unit
2 consecutive wins raise 1 unit
3 consecutive wins lower 1 unit
4 consecutive wins raise 1 unit
etc...
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Tomorrow if i have the time i will post an example.
Can Someone kindly give me two or three bac shoes?
Cheers
#85
Creativity Adventures / Re: Experimenting 3 states Bia...
Last post by albertojonas - October 02, 2024, 12:58:50 AMQuotemore hand testing.
Continuing to explore this idea that 3 states will not show up in succession: 123 or 132 or 213 or 312.
Possibilities are (27 permutations):
111 ww
112 wl
113 wl
121 lw
122 lw
123 LLL
131 lw
132 LLL
133 lw
211 lw
212 lw
213 LLL
221 wl
222 ww
223 ww
231 wl
232 ww
233 ww
311 lw
312 LLL
313 llw
321 wl
322 ww
323 ww
331 wl
332 ww
333 ww
I AM SORRY!!
CORRECTION
111 W
112 W
113 W
121 LW
122 LLW
123 LLL
131 LW
132 LLL
133 LLW
211 LW
212 LLW
213 LLL
221 W
222 W
223 W
231 W
232 W
233 W
311 LW
312 LLL
313 LLW
321 W
322 W
323 W
331 W
332 W
333 W
#86
AsymBacGuy / Re: Why bac could be beatable ...
Last post by AsymBacGuy - October 01, 2024, 08:36:00 PMI've canceled a couple of my recent posts because they were too intricated to be grasped.
The concept is that any result distribution move toward the right by different speeds.
Obviously more singles and the speed will be higher, more streaks and the speed will slow down in relationship of how long are such streaks.
Obviously there's an average speed as we know that every shoe dealt will end up by filling way more likely ranges (number of columns).
"Turbo" sequences at either side of the process (very high speed, very low speed) happens but naturally they are rare to happen.
Moreover an interesting feature of baccarat subsequences is that it's quite rare to get same step speeds at two or more "derived roads".
A possible registration of the patterns could be to put a + sign anytime the side shifts (B->P or P->B) and a - sign when the same side happens again.
We are not interested to assess the +/- final number, let alone to chase a specific sign, just about their form of presentation along any shoe.
For example a shoe sequence as BPPPBBPBPBBBPPPPP is
+ - - + - + + + - - + - - - -
To cut a long story short and just to provide an example, the only overalternating +/-/+/-/+...pattern comes out when consecutive doubles come out.
In fact BBPPBBPPBB...is
- + - + - + - + -
On the other end and as already sayed above, long + or - homogeneous sequences show up at branded chopping lines (+ sign) or at long streaks (- sign).
Every other more probable pattern is entitled to form short + or - sequences getting different shapes (isolated or clustered).
The interesting part of everything is that those shapes are sensitive either of the actual lenght of the shoe they are happening and about how the previous shapes went so far.
More later
as.
The concept is that any result distribution move toward the right by different speeds.
Obviously more singles and the speed will be higher, more streaks and the speed will slow down in relationship of how long are such streaks.
Obviously there's an average speed as we know that every shoe dealt will end up by filling way more likely ranges (number of columns).
"Turbo" sequences at either side of the process (very high speed, very low speed) happens but naturally they are rare to happen.
Moreover an interesting feature of baccarat subsequences is that it's quite rare to get same step speeds at two or more "derived roads".
A possible registration of the patterns could be to put a + sign anytime the side shifts (B->P or P->B) and a - sign when the same side happens again.
We are not interested to assess the +/- final number, let alone to chase a specific sign, just about their form of presentation along any shoe.
For example a shoe sequence as BPPPBBPBPBBBPPPPP is
+ - - + - + + + - - + - - - -
To cut a long story short and just to provide an example, the only overalternating +/-/+/-/+...pattern comes out when consecutive doubles come out.
In fact BBPPBBPPBB...is
- + - + - + - + -
On the other end and as already sayed above, long + or - homogeneous sequences show up at branded chopping lines (+ sign) or at long streaks (- sign).
Every other more probable pattern is entitled to form short + or - sequences getting different shapes (isolated or clustered).
The interesting part of everything is that those shapes are sensitive either of the actual lenght of the shoe they are happening and about how the previous shapes went so far.
More later
as.
#87
General Discussion / Indian Tribe Without Land Atte...
Last post by alrelax - September 30, 2024, 03:20:13 AMVery interesting article about a tiny tribe is getting pushback for betting big on a $600M casino in California's wine country.
The Koi Nation's chances of owning a Las Vegas-style casino seemed impossible until a federal court ruling in 2019 cleared the way for the tiny tribe to find a financial partner to buy land and place it into a trust to make it eligible for a casino.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/tiny-tribe-getting-pushback-betting-040604600.html
The Koi Nation's chances of owning a Las Vegas-style casino seemed impossible until a federal court ruling in 2019 cleared the way for the tiny tribe to find a financial partner to buy land and place it into a trust to make it eligible for a casino.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/tiny-tribe-getting-pushback-betting-040604600.html
#88
AsymBacGuy / Re: Why bac could be beatable ...
Last post by alrelax - September 29, 2024, 09:01:36 PMI am going to delete my previously posted content as I only refer to actual B&M casino reality baccarat, that I played or witnessed in person.
Why? Because it is the 'short run' and what is clearly being played at the table.
So, my thoughts do not fit in here, IMO.
Why? Because it is the 'short run' and what is clearly being played at the table.
So, my thoughts do not fit in here, IMO.
#89
AsymBacGuy / Re: Why bac could be beatable ...
Last post by AsymBacGuy - September 29, 2024, 08:29:11 PMAbsolutely right, short term is the way to go but always adding in our strategy a kind of "long term" factor as we know well that strong deviations do not come out so often.
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#90
KungFuBac / Re: Horrible session across 4+...
Last post by AsymBacGuy - September 29, 2024, 08:22:49 PMHi KFB!
If you play 7-9h hours per day it means you are a fine player and of course I know you are!
Wrong side wagered and you have won? Good!
A win is a win!
as.
If you play 7-9h hours per day it means you are a fine player and of course I know you are!
Wrong side wagered and you have won? Good!
A win is a win!
as.