Well, I can only share what I know and my opinion, I have only been testing flat betting and positive progressions.
Where I aim to catch one sequence and been trying to play both.

1) Regression Up & Pull
2) Up as you win 1248
3) Up as you win flat betting twice then increase half unit for each win
4) Up as you win 1326
5) Up as you win Guetting progression


Cheers

Quote from: BEAT-THE-WHEEL on July 10, 2018, 02:47:25 PM
Hi Sputnik,
Thanks for your posting,
You mean, if we just bet baccarat,
Only play , PLAYER,
then we mark them as S , for single player, and M for series of players,
Then see how it behave.

Thus we have say,
SSMMMSMSMSSMMMSMSMSSSSMMMMMSSSS,
what kind of variance and the ecart that you had experienced.
Thanks.

You make one S letter and one M letter then use how many times you get of each.

S 14121136424
M 2153421124

1 stand for two single or one series of three or higher
2 stand for four singles or two series of three or higher
And so on

So, for example, M 534 is five series of three or higher and after that some singles and next series we get three series of three or higher and so on.
Assume you play a positive progression and you are in heaven.

Correction note:

It should be that both sequences can be used by one single side.

Sequence:

You have heard about a choppy table where singles and series of two-strike for several times in a row.
Also probably heard about streaky tables where one color strikes for several times in a row.

The Median Value:

I have been measuring singles versus a series of three and find a middle value between both, the cut point median value.
Two singles have 50% probability to happen versus a series of three in a row.
A series of three have 50% probability to happen versus two singles in a row.

Singles and Multiples

A single outcome is on isolated event of one color hit and multiples is at least a series of two or more in a row.
With this method and strategy series of two works as break even bets in both directions, no matter is singles or series dominate.
Series of two are neutral.

Enter and Exit points:

Entering points for observation to see one state or wave of one sequence to hit once or several times in a row.
Starts with either two singles or a series of three or higher.

Clarification, after you see two singles you have 50% probability they will continue to strike several times in a row.
After seeing a series of three or higher you will have 50% probability the series will continue to strike for several times in a row.

Summary:

Now you can see variance and read the even money like an open book.

Streaky sequence:

P
P
P

B

P
P

B
B
B
B
B

P
P

B
B
B

Choppy sequence:

P

B

P

B
B

P
P

B

P
P


B

P

B
B

Note:

When tracking and charting singles and multiplies you can use the letters S for singles and M for multiplies.
The Choppy Sequence is different than others as you can play one side by itself without making any bets on the opposite side.
That is a good option for playing Player side with no fee, also worked great with Trading and Sportbetting.

Alrelax have you test other positive progressions and what is your verdict.

Many Thanks 

Alrelax thanks for taking time and effort to explain.

I like the method of taking 1/3 out of the winning pot and continue with what remains.
Will try this my self.

I don't fully understand you staking strategy, but i assume you play 1326 at Banker or Player side and on the other side you play up as you go, for example, 12345 on a winning, if not you flat betting 1111  and 1326 kick in - everything between loses or break even.
Is this correct or am I missing something or did I misunderstand your staking strategy?

Cheers 

  Hello Alrelax, what is your loss limit and how do you handle your money playing with positive progression.
How and when do you stop playing?

For example, sometimes you make a few units as the strike comes later during the game and sometimes you strike in beginning and win serious money. Do you stop playing in both situations?

Cheers
     

Yes now I can comprehend what you wrote and it was very nice expressed.

I will put it further and stretch thing a little bit.
Take clockwise direction and anti-clockwise direction with roulette in Europe.
That is a counter measurement by the casino against the advantage players using physics.

The conclusion is that you have two random streams mixing everything together into chaotic variance with two independent random bits distribution.
You should play one stream independently from the other as they produce the same results with less confusion and chaotic variance.

In fact, I see this for the same reason advantage player separate Clockwise direction and Anticlockwise direction.
The reason is that rotor and ball spin different and the dominant drop zone might be different from the other direction, so that's different physics parameters.

With random bits where one stream is connected within itself (victim to the law of series) and produce the same results as regular distribution, should not be confused and mixed with another opposite side that produces same results independently.
One comparison would be that in Las Vegas do they spin the ball/rotor in one direction without the counter measuring clockwise and anticlockwise that is common in Europe.

Take trading for example, if I learn and master to play one single stream, I am only allowed to place my bet on one side at all times, in one way that would be the price change going up and the other side would be the price change going down. To make a comparison trading currency versus even money.

See how beautiful the streams look separated from each other.

P 116112321512112142141312411311342443314111322211453311111216341132112132133141
B 1233123132521211316112421223113333142512221241121113774445321123111231111211215

Me talking about risk and reward with up and downs trading is about scalping where you take advantage of choppy sequences or small price changes to add up to serious money.
Scalping is an art that is very similar towards advance trending using different gambling concepts.

Cheers
   

I don't comprehend everything you write and have difficult to see that you have another opinion.
Assume we have to agree that we disagree.

For example, Banker has a slightly higher strike ratio then Player but is so insignificantly small that you will never have the ability to take advantage of such difference.
Just mention fluctuation and variance make it disappear in the short, middle run and only manifest in the long run - when we all are dead.

Upon this Banker side has a huge fee opposite to Player side.
So when we look at the hose edge we get a great advantage playing only Player side.

Trading currency comes with any amount and I am referring to bitcoins.
Not talking about stocks.

Cheers

Gambling Perspective!

When you are trading you use one side of the coin.
You aim for the ups and avoid the downs.

That is the same thing as playing one side with Baccarat.
For example, playing only Player side.

Is very rare or not existed discussion on gambling forums where you tackle only one side of the coin.
If someone solves the puzzle you would be trading expert, sports betting expert, baccarat expert, and roulette expert.

Cheers

 Here is one example where two states last almost for eight hours using 300 trails from random org.
We bet singles and series of two and singles and series of three and higher.
If we encounter series of two and series of three and higher we lose four bets and that happens in the end.

Just want to illustrate that singles connect two states with each other and they can be hovering around the whole time during your visit to the casino.
That is a true and real bias, but there is other solutions and complex ideas how to continue when you reach the third state.

With this example, I use one strong side of the random bits.


2
2
2
1
2
1
1 L 1 -1
2
2
2
2
2
2
1
1 L 1 -2
2 W 1 -1
1
2 W 1 +0
1
2 W 1 +1
2
1
1 L 1 +0
1 L 1 -1
2
1
2 W 1 +0
2
2
2
1
1 L 1 -1
1 W 1 +0
2
2
2
2
1
2 W 1 +1
2
1
1 L 1 +0
1 W 1 +1
2
1
2 W 1 +2
2
2
1
2 W 1 +3
2
1
2 W 1 +4
1
1 L 1 +3
1 W 1 +4
2
1
2 W 1 +5
2
2
1
1 L 1 +4
1 W 1 +5
1
1
1
2
1
2 W 1 +6
2
1
1 L 1 +5
1 W 1 +6
1
2
1
2 W 1 +7
2
1
1 L 1 +6
2 L 1 +5
2
1
2 W 1 +6
2
1
1 L 1 +5
2 W 1 +6
1
2 W 1 +7
2
2
1
2 W 1 +8
2
2
2
2
1
1 L 1 +7
2 W 1 +8
1
1 L 1 +7
1 L 1 +6
2
2
1
1 L 1 +5
1 W 1 +6
1
2
2
2
2
2
2
1
2 W 1 +7
1
2 W 1 +8
2
2
2
2
2
2
1
2 W 1 +9
2
2
1
1 L 1 +8
1 W 1 +9
1
2
2
2
2
1
1 L 1 +8
2 L 1 +7
1
1 L 1 +6
2 W 1 +7
1
1 L 1 +6
2 W 1 +7
1
2 W 1 +8
1
2 W 1 +9
1
1 L 1 +8
2 W 1 +9
2
1
2 W 1 +10
1
2 W 1 +11
1
2 W 1 +12
2
2
1
2 W 1 +13
1
2 W 1 +14
2
1
1 L 1 +13
2 W 1 +14
1
2 W 1 +15
2
1
1 L 1 +14
1 L 1 +13
1
2
2
1
2 W 1 +14
1
2 W 1 +15
1
1 L 1 +14
1 W 1 +15
2
1
1 L 1 +14
2 L 1 +13
1
1 L 1 +12
2 W 1 +13
2
1
2 W 1 +14
1
1 L 1 +13
2 W 1 +14
2
1
2 W 1 +15
1
1 L 1 +14
2 W 1 +15
2
2
1
2 W 1 +16
1
2 W 1 +17
2
2
2
2
1
2 W 1 +18
2
1
1 L 1 +17
2 W 1 +18
1
2 W 1 +19
1
2 W 1 +20
2
2
2
2
2
1
2 W 1 +21
2
1
2 W 1 +22
1
2 W 1 +23
2
2
2
2
2
1
2 W 1 +24
1
2 W 1 +25
2
2
2
1
1 L 1 +24
1 L 1 +23
1
1
2
2
2
1
1 L 1 +22
2 L 1 +21
2
1
2
2
2
1
1 L
2
2
1
2 W
1
1 L
2 W
2
2
1
2 W
2
1
1 L
2 W
1
2 W
2
1
1 L
2 W
1
1 L
2 W
1
1
1
1
1
2
2

Now I follow you and can see that you talk about two different things.
Ecart Play I will answer later.

Now you mention my great discovery using only three events with the odds 1 in 3 where you get tiny, medium and large bias among only two events.

Singles is one event
Series of two is one event
Series of three and higher is one event

I observe several baccarat shoes and regular random bits and the bias is the real thing.

For does who is familiar with Ellis work:
My discovery is much better then NOR that has a similar approach.
Someone could say my method is closer to some kind of SAP count.

Using my methodology you can play only one strong side, for example, banker or player side by itself.
Sometimes you can encounter singles and series of three and higher strike for 5 10 15 20 25 30 times in a row.
That is equal a direct win and a break-even decision W or LW.
No other solution offers such tight strike ratio.

Have done many great discoveries looking at the bias where two states out of three can be connected.
For example when singles and series of two overlaps to series of three and higher with singles.
If someone has the singles as the main dominant bet you can overlap between both for a whole shoe and even sometimes several shoes after each other.

So is interesting to see how three state also has the odds being 1 in 3.
Where two states can follow each other for several hours of real play.

The map is in front of you and is up to you to make up the decision making when and where to place bets.
Is easy to make a simple observation to see the bias where two events strike several times in a row.

This discovery has such great potential so you can develop and use it for trading Bitcoin or any other market and also sports betting.
It can be played using both sides of the coin or only one side.

You have:

Singles and series of two - one state
Singles and series of three and higher - one state
Series of two and series of three and higher - one state


Cheers

What is your question? I have a bad habit of not reading everything when there is a lot of writing.

Been testing some different ways with different success using a march to catch regression.
One interesting thing I notice is that one event should go at least +1 into the other direction.

Here you get tiny, medium and large ways of regression and it depends on the window of events you observe and play.
Is like getting a blueprint where you know what is going to happen in the future, but you need a march to follow to catch does events of regression.

I will not debate the existence of regression as I know it real and manifest in all situations.
The point many are missing is that you only track and chart 100 trails each visit.
That is 300 trails for all three EC.
The expectation is to get at least one Ecart for every 1000 trails.
You can get more or less depending on how many different ways you measuring the EC using the Law Of Series.

Cheers

Much talk about bankroll, some use small % of bankroll and some use the whole bankroll to tackle the worst.
My point was that some accept loses and don't put the whole bankroll at risk when others risk everything and the whole bankroll.
Do you see the difference?

Cheers

I thought loses was part of the game and you accept them.
Not saying I am flat betting, but want to show 100 session results using total mechanical rules.

+87 units
-27 units
= +60 units


- - - - - - - - - -

1. +3
2. -6
3. +7
4. +3
5. +0
6. +5
7. +2
8. +1.5
9. +3.5
10. +3

+28
-6
= +22

1. +2
2. +1.5
3. +5
4. -6
5. -0.5
6. +2
7. +5
8. +2
9. +2
10. -6

+25.5
-12.5
= +13

1. +3
2. +4
3. -0.5
4. +3
5. +2
6. +2
7. +2
8. +0
9. -6.5
10. +2

+18
-7
= +11

1. -6.5
2. -6
3. -6.5
4. +6
5. +2
6. +6.5
7. +2
8. -6
9. +2
10. +2

+21
-25
= -4

1. +2
2. +3
3. +3
4. +0
5. -6
6. +4
7. +2.5
8. +1.5
9. +2
10. -6

+18
-12
= +6

1. +1.5
2. +2
3. +2
4. +2
5. +1.5
6. -1
7. +6
8. +3
9. +1.5
10. -0.5

+19.5
-1.5
= +18

1. +1.5
2. +0
3. +2
4. +0
5. +2
6. +2
7. +2
8. -0.5
9. +1.5
10. +3

+14
-0.5
= +13.5

1. +0
2. +4
3. -6
4. +0
5. +2
6. +4
7. +0
8. +0
9. -6
10. -6.5

+10
-18.5
= -8.5

1. -6.5
2. +1.5
3. +0
4. +0
5. +2
6. +2
7. +1.5
8. -6
9. +5
10. +4

+16
-12.5
= +3.5

-7
-6
+3
-6
+1.5
+2
+4
-6
-0.5
+2.5

+11
-25.5
= -14.5

TOTAL

+87
-27
= +60