I'm avoiding implicating "winning system" in the copy.

TL;DR:

- Users agree they are buying access to the server only. No winning system(s) claimed inside.
- Original system creators can submit their method in exchange of 4 months of access.

I'm at the point of stripping "half-way" functionality. It is basically Pages, Register and Post.

Merry Christmas 2018 @ ALL!!! 


Vic

Sent this to a member, thought it would be good to post:

Quote from: VLS on December 20, 2018, 02:50:09 AM
Hello _, some clearing points:

- The forum is not "Private" in the traditional sense. i.e. all system topics have a partial preview so there are no hidden method threads.
- It is more of a club where people gather to study methods. I provide the software for the testing (bots).
- There are no moderators, only me.
- Some contributions are expected by other fellow system creators in exchange of getting access to the content.
- We launch with a small extra promo to close the year where we give 50% extra active membership time for people who join to close 2018. i.e. 548 days instead of 365 days.
- The site is being put online @ www.betonly.club

I'm developing it on my computer so there's only a test page on the server right now.
Live (public) release is expected by Christmas. It's just a few days left to launch.

Cheers & many thanks for your interest!
Vic

Hello, thanks for your post! Short & sweet answer: the expectation is to have a place where the only type of posting and interaction is expected to be system/method study.

That's basically it.

I am submitting all of the systems I've created throughout the years as well as my own variations on several methods form the spanish-speaking "scene".

Only time will tell if the "Free Backdoor" would attract other fellow members to submit theirs.

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On a side note, the new site sponsors two bot projects:

- BetSoftware (traditional windows bot)
- BetOnlyBot (experimental bot for Linux, Windows, Mac, web and mobile)

Both are 100% free for the community as a side gain from this endeavor that benefits both members and non-members alike.

...with the new Bot enjoying direct access to the server for customized functionality enabled for paid members.

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There are no holy grail promises, just hardcore method study with accompanying software for members to make their own conclusions.

Site's actually only ~$8.08/mo, but the payment is needed in advance in order to have the "safety net" to plan for the year as opposed to being of the verge of inoperability for the proverbial/perpetual next month.

Yearly planning and yearly sponsorship is quite the shift regarding what we have today.

The site WILL be kept clean and curated since it's a "live book" (which members can download - i.e. all the forum pages in a single .PDF)

It isn't a traditional gambling community per se but a very focused betting study site.

There will actually be no surprises regarding content. All the live posts have a % of visible content as a 24/7 preview.

Yep, Almost zero "Noise" to systems ratio!

I will be curating an accompanying eBook to be sold on Amazon, eBay and other marketplaces.

Price for the club is $97 per year / 365 days.

Yearly rate will provide enough margin of "operational continuity" to make our new focused community thrive and also solve the upfront development hours for the 100% free software bot being sponsored.

The "Free Backdoor" is for new published method authors to be rewarded with 4 months / 120 days of free access.

Thanks for your contribution dear Patrik.

QuoteI am not saying this will win all the time, but I am saying that you have pretty good odds to operate with casino money.

It's all about having a personal holy grail...

Operating with casino money is quite a great achievement. Congrats!

Hi guys, sorry for the downtime. We've been re-provisioned to a new node so hopefully things go smooth.

I specifically told hosting support to take as long as they needed to make sure last working state was preserved right (and so they did!)

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As soon as the new "BetOnly club" site gets online we're getting improved facilities:

https://betselection.cc/general-discussion/betonly-club-gt-non-betting-discussion-banned!-(new-site)/

Cheers & many thanks again.

Feel free to resume using the forum as usual.

I'm still stubbornly creating our own "BetWeb" forum engine (custom).

Really aiming at making it the forum we've ever wished. Technical aspect included.

This project may be my last Betting-related project online hence it's rather important to get it right.

Given it sticks, we have a viable (stable) forum for decades to come

Merry Christmas to all
&
Very best wishes,
Vic

QuoteI'll be running my own personal vision of how a systems forum should be, developing freeware programs in the process and dedicating my work to those who share the vision and support it.

This is a nice one to be part of... Lots of fun for system players / enthusiasts

Quote from: alrelax on November 12, 2018, 01:03:40 PM
Okay, so we are talking about a totally separate site

Yep.

Quote from: alrelax on November 12, 2018, 01:03:40 PMYour 'no discussion, no comment' protocol will apply to that site, not here at BetSelection.CC, correct?

Correct.

Quote from: alrelax on November 12, 2018, 01:03:40 PMI have received several inquires regarding this.  My understanding is the above.  Please clearly confirm.

I clearly confirm: BetOnly.club is a site with no ties to BetSelection's database, sections or ways.

I was going to "move the furniture" so to speak but received some generous & timely advise from great members.

Special thanks to you Bally, Angelo & Max.

Quote from: alrelax on November 12, 2018, 01:03:40 PMSo, you are saying, a totally separate site?  Linked and run/moderated by VLS, but nonetheless, totally separate with the membership, etc.

Yes, created in order to break the "chicken & egg" problem.

It always breaks down to funding. I can only dedicate so many hours in the "night shift" after work. It's simply impossible for me to devote enough time to create what we deserve in such a way.

The more paying members, the more day-time hours I can devote to developing the "club". We've several projects in the back-burner; some for years now waiting for completion. It's time to finish them, even if it requires supporting members to pay.

It's this model or no development at all.

Quote from: alrelax on November 12, 2018, 01:03:40 PMSorry, to be so blatantly redundant but it was unclear and misconceived I do believe as being part of BetSelection as we are used to. 

Thanks

BetSelection continues "as is". It's the best for both groups.

I'll be running my own personal vision of how a systems forum should be, developing freeware programs in the process and dedicating my work to those who share the vision and support it.

It's a "benevolent dictatorship"

Vic

Hello! Just registered www.BetOnly.club

A new site to bring my vision of a proper betting discussion place, including embedded support to thrive. Its features:

- Non-betting discussion is outright banned.

- Main sections are: "Bet Selection", "Money Management", "Full strategies". Short and to the point.

- I'm the "Benevolent Curator For Life" of the site.

- Sponsors our BetSoftware bot.

- Won't disturb BetSelection.cc's ways.

- BetOnly.club is an entirely separate project.

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..."Free is doomed, let's try paid"

Yep, let's allow the market to decide.

Vic

Yes! Just made it! It's 11/11 again so happy birthday to me 

Let's be positive about the present and future

It's been quite the year but here we stand.

Lots of things going through my head as a new year in my life begins.

I've been reading so much, want to share so much!

For starters, the positive news of the abundance movement. Peter Diamandis and company rock.

https://www.diamandis.com/data

I've been also getting to know more about "Digital physics".

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_physics

These two are the big ones for me this year.

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Regarding my current goals: they can be summarized as extending to a small network of vertical spaces for topics I care about.

I want to create spaces to discuss having a better body and becoming a better version of yourself (better self).

I'm a firm believer. Regeneration begins at the body.

Regarding our betting community, I've been pondering about either rebooting BetSelection as a 'System study-only' site or creating a different space for this purpose.

It's time to transcend the current state of affairs and become a productive community for incubating methods & putting them to the test. With an open mind.

Zero judgement. "More testing, less talk" I say! (I'm willing to devote the hours for creating the testers)

Let's make this a year of productivity & success for all of us involved around 

Thanks a world for being there
&
Let's make it together!.
Vic

Hello guys,

I'm posting as user SteemSoftware on the Steem network:

https://steemit.com/@steemsoftware

If you have a Steem account by all means follow and support us there.

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For those new to it, it's basically a social network where users get rewarded when others vote for their posts.

Cheers!
Vic

Quote from: TheMagician on October 10, 2018, 06:43:20 AMWhat really happened?

The site was under Glen's domain account for a while (i.e. full ownership), then it was returned to mine.

No big conspiracy or anything.

This is what happened.