Okie, it turned out we'll get more downtime "here and there" during the week.

The extensions/modifications we've applied through the years to the core files may need some more work to bring the forum to a more modern state (i.e. Tablet/Phone-friendly layout, etc.)

We're addressing things to do this right!

Hello! We're freezing database + files today as the best course of action for the upgrade is taken.

This is a biggie source-wise (fresh core files) and a small one data-wise. We get a new layout as well.

Cheers!
Vic

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Quote from: Albalaha on September 23, 2019, 05:42:25 AM[...]none is writing here regularly these days but You, me, Victor, Asym and occassionally a few posts here and there from others. Check topics started.

Sharp as usual Sumit, "what you put out, you get back".

I myself am revising my relationship to this forum this December 2019 for good, depending on what happens during the month.

It has to either change toward the positive or stop. It's the most healthy for all parties involved.

Vic

Quote from: alrelax on November 29, 2019, 01:48:57 AM
Happy Thanksgiving and best wishes always for all!  Alrelax.

Hello Glen! Hope you, your wife and kids have a most-awesome Thanksgiving week to close November in abundance, joy and love.

Thanks for sharing this Sumit,

Interesting synchronicity as I'm studying possible ways to do "dispersion mangling" efficiently. i.e. checking if something as simple as changing locations can help, as well as other techniques.

Some Spaniard players swear they can withstand great amounts of dispersion by "evolving" and "devolving" numerical coverage, according to the game's flow + bankroll movement(s).

The basic play being to widen the coverage on dispersion, then squeezing the most by reducing coverage (hence increasing the payout) "when it is your time" as they say.

Nice to see your approach for the even chances 

Quote from: Albalaha on July 27, 2019, 04:10:04 AMOther than this, I do not see any use of so called sleepers.

You can use the sleeper group as a foundation for wakers, considering a hit in the sleeper a signal after which you'd begin your "measured attack".

Depending on the size of the numerical group, you can calculate for how long to sustain bets. As a general rule, being always careful past a full cycle. Definitely never past 1.5 cycle of bets.

(Sleepers "clump" as other groups do too, hence they are usable in "clumping" frameworks )

May you and your family find reassurance and love during these difficult times.

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Quote from: alrelax on September 01, 2019, 04:39:24 PMWhen you do well you become a sign of hope to the optimist

Hello guys, on-point announcement here:

Due to reasons outside of our control the forum is going offline from August 17th up to an indeterminate amount of time; nonetheless, do rest assured we're definitely coming back online again

Thank you very much for your patience and understanding.

As they say "it happens" --but we'll be back

Hello dear Sumit. It's okay; everyone's entitled to an opinion.

If you think positive/compounding progressions' earnings on high-paying locations are fiction (or simply dreams) that's perfectly fine with me and I won't argue with you for a second. At all!

What I'm suggesting is simply losing the least during bad times + using clumping events for winning the most to offset misses in a natural/organic way instead of "chasing". That's simply one of unlimited possible personal ways to face the game; I certainly have nothing to prove at this time of my life so my only concern is with my bankroll, as I suppose is the same as yours

I'm not even motivated to post about low-paying betting schemes. It's been years since I post "cancellations" or similar schemes. I have gone through the big negative banks before with many variations and "tweaks" but at this time in my life I simply prefer to regress after a moderate-bankroll bust and recoup in the eventual clump.

For the sake of avoiding even a shadow of a conflict let me tell you are 100% right: Guarantees? NONE! 

...Yet I find it resounding better with me and my current framework for the last several years (see the dates on the posts; when you stick with something for years it may mean either you're a glutton for pain or there may be something to it )

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Quite a pleasure discussing with you too; as I move to the Public Domain scene & devote myself full-time to helping mankind in several productive ways, these bet-related interactions are scheduled to become lesser and lesser, until most likely eventually becoming nonexistent, so let's enjoy them while they last!

Cheers!

Vic

Hello Sumit, I've quit trying to beat the low-paying location & focused on losing the least + winning more to "patch" the balance with positive schemes.

QuoteI read over your topic talking of 75% MM but failed to get its gist.

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The gist: having your "first" bankroll played to increase its unit value.

Creating more minimal/starting unit bankrolls with the enlarged wins.

After losing your first bank, regressing to the very least unit afterward to give back minimal-unit value in case of concatenated busts.

QuoteIt would be great to hear from you if you could offer something valuable in handling bad and tricky stretches.

In this framework you don't "handle the worst"; you pass through the worst with minimal unit value, losing the least in the hopes your positive trams offset them.

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Looking for something 100% sure in gambling isn't the most optimal IMHO; there are no guarantees in these games. At one point you just have to let things go and assume a bankroll bust. The point being "does your positive tram(s) give you enough to overcome the negatives?"... such a thing can only be answered by your own betting, I'm afraid.

Quote from: Kimo Li on August 07, 2019, 07:07:58 AM
Hi Vic,
It has been a while. I hope all is well.

Yes, all is well for us around here

Thank you very much for caring Kimo.

Glad to see you're active around

Quote from: Kattila on August 12, 2019, 10:51:41 PM
Btw...i prefer streets, lines, quads

Hello Kattila, thanks for posting your approach!

I agree; it seems to be a trend: the more you play the more payout you tend to seek! (Newcomers pay attention )

Quote from: Albalaha on August 11, 2019, 01:05:41 PM1) Survive the worst possible; and
2) win a net profit in a below average/average win rate thereafter, without looking for a clumping win or compensating wins.

Hello dear Sumit,

Congratulations on your realization.

I would like to comment on a possible way to face the game with a similar goal.

In my framework, accompanying the 75% Money Management methodology, we divide the game in three (3) states.

• Concentration of hits.
• Expected rate.
• Dispersion of hits.

We try to perform the best during the first two cases, having the intention of rising the MOST raw amount of starting units (initial value) during the expected + concentration times of the game.

As the game "bumps" between concentration / expected / dispersion states -as it's natural with it-, our aim extends toward increasing the unit organically on concentration / expected times while losing the very least on the extremely unwell times.

When the game goes as expected + better than expected, you make it ok, or great. Then you give back the least by regressing the unit to the minimum after a bankroll bust; staying there automatically should there be the proverbial storm... Regressing to the minimum during bad times is better than giving it all back in a short period of time as it's customary with some schemes, which serves the purpose of keeping you longer in game to increase the chance of being there for the time when the tide turns.

High potential to rise + enforced slow fall... with no limit on the wins as betting with increased units "explodes" the initial value & your own take as a player.

You do need a compounding MM to execute this framework, in order to create an EXPONENTIAL PROFIT, with the aim to offset the eventual losses.

The framework doesn't mandate which way to bet in order to create the high-rise conditions. Perhaps you use the "Boom" positive progression with no limit, or perhaps you re-invest most of your net gain toward increasing your session's unit value to make more on every win. That's up to the player.

The point being aiming at winning the inter-session averages rather than blindly trying to recoup immediately / in a rush, or -even worse- limiting your wins by "playing scared". See the mistake of people regressing on the WINS?  (i.e. stiff progressive players betting 1 unit per spin at the positive tram(s) when they're winning at a more-than-expected rate, instead of compounding at these very times for making a killing & helping their averages shine).

You have to create a significant "upward boost" when your time arrives!

This is -in my opinion- a conscious-enough way to have a shot at winning the averages by not "giving it back" all at once while giving yourself the chance of creating upward trends in your balance by compounding your unit value considerably.


Vic

Quote from: Kimo Li on August 06, 2019, 01:02:55 AM
Spreadsheet to explain basic value.

+1 Thank you Kimo